65 responses so far ↓

• 1 blackflash // Oct 7, 2008 at 12:23 pm

  that is just f***ed up, I going to make sure I report that once i get home from work, and I hope others are doing that right now.

• 2 Saccia // Oct 7, 2008 at 12:26 pm

  Great… I can see it on Fox News already…. new game trains terrorists with 9/11 simulator. After they yank the video and the level they need to yank the creator’s PSN account.

• 3 Turian209 // Oct 7, 2008 at 12:32 pm

  map was made by “bushkiller”

  Obviously just an extremely ignorant person.

• 4 wolflive // Oct 7, 2008 at 12:42 pm

  What a bunch of dumb asses…Don’t they have better things to do.

• 5 Diortem // Oct 7, 2008 at 1:04 pm

  nope… they dont.

  And you can only stop this by a system where a “MOD” can go in and ban accounts from uploading levels.

• 6 kim andre // Oct 7, 2008 at 1:16 pm

  i know it is not good, but when is the us gona take a litle self irony, ofcorse i know that 911 was a realy BAD thing, but the us is realy geting down on this!
  a simpsons pisode that showed the twin towers got canseled from tv. thats over dramatik!
  plains was canseled from gta4 becose of 911!
  seriasly dont freak out so much >:( now this dude got MENY weivs becose of you guys puting this up on the page, pleas DO NOT care.
  if you dont care noting hapends you blow it up to much i just gets mad!

• 7 NoneOfYourBusiness // Oct 7, 2008 at 1:29 pm

  @kim andre

  Contructive use of that event should be allowed, but this is blatent attention-getting at its worst Its not tasteful or respect-ful. I think this topic shouldn’t become taboo, instead become something to learn from, understand, and never forget.

  Also, is english your second language or are you trying to type in 7331-speak? O_o

• 8 Showtime95 // Oct 7, 2008 at 1:33 pm

  Kim please use proper english or spell check. It is hard to take you seriously when you can’t understand or have to look really hard to make out what you are trying to say.

  We Americans don’t like this because of the fact it was a brutal attack on our soil. It doesn’t happen here pretty much at all compared to other countries (which is bad too), but because of this we are more concerned about this because of how close to home it hits. So what if publishers pull things from games. They can do it for whatever reason they like, no planes, who cares you have helicopters still. you don’t like it don’t play it. I see this as a total disrespect to our country and to all of those who lost their lives or lost someone in this event.

• 9 Showtime95 // Oct 7, 2008 at 1:36 pm

  NoneOfYourBusiness: I agree we need to learn from the event, remember the events and the people, but not do what this guy did which was recreate it in a game so anyone could perform it again and again. (sorry for the back to back post)

• 10 kim andre // Oct 7, 2008 at 1:57 pm

  @showtime

  ok dude i hate when people call out my spelling.
  you see i ame from norway i ame 16 years old, that mean i speak norwegian and writ norwegian, and i have a writing disorder it is a seriasly problem i have. in norway we have to learn english when we are 7 yr old and start whit frencg when we are 12 yr old then wee shud do german when we turn 16 so that is 4 difrent ways to write for me!
  try write me a leathr in norwegian and i shall diss you becose you cant norwegian, thats just wrong, so i hope you do respect this from now on and dont make fun of people that have writing problems, becose not everybady is from the US. so just think abaut it, and stop making fun of me

• 11 kim andre // Oct 7, 2008 at 1:59 pm

  @showtime :

  and if you think i just can use word or somting……
  i gona tell you a litle secret……….MY WORD WRITING PROGRAM IS IN F**** NORWEGIAN!!!!

• 12 Edthefreak // Oct 7, 2008 at 1:59 pm

  I honestly don’t see why you’re upset about this video. People do this ALL the time. You could do this in Halo, or any other game with a map editor. Morons do it all the time. Spore with their penis monsters, Halo with all those nude women made from weapons and scenery. It happens, acknowledging it usually only helps it get larger. The Halo nude thing? It started off as like this one picture. Then, BAM! Tons of them started showing up after the picture gained popularity. I’m not telling you to ignore 9/11, I’m telling you to ignore s*** like this. It’s attention they want, because they think you’re a fool to help them gain popularity. Kinda like Rick Rolls. Ya know?

• 13 Bannel // Oct 7, 2008 at 2:02 pm

  Its just a level, don’t view it if you don’t want to. I thought you Americans were all for freedom of expression.

  9/11 was a tragic event but unless your relatives were directly invloved in it then why does it make you so angry?

  Since the U.S.A invaded Iraq over 90,000 civilians have died. Thats compared to the 3000 that died in this attack.

  I feel deeply sorry for any that were personally effected by this attack but having this much hatred over a relatively small attack can’t be good for anybody.

• 14 kim andre // Oct 7, 2008 at 2:15 pm

  @Edthefreak:

  you chud not get it more right.

  @Bannel:

  jes i know it makes me sad that the world id like this.

  i do not like teror and stuff but this is a good game pleas i say pleas dont ruin its impreshon just becose of one dumb m F****
  so stop giv it eny atensjon, i dont tell you to stop thinking abaut 911, but stop thinking abaut the people making fun of it.
  i ame shure enybady chud have dun this in MS paint or somting, and you know what? EVERYBADY do i. so stop care pleas stop cear.

  ps. sory for bad spelling

• 15 caffeinedisaster // Oct 7, 2008 at 2:15 pm

  It’s attention he wanted.
  It’s attention he GOT!

  The world’s not all sunshine and rainbows.
  Just ignore him. He’ll go away.

• 16 caffeinedisaster // Oct 7, 2008 at 2:17 pm

  @ kim andre

  I LIKE your spelling.

  It makes me really have to concentrate on what you’re saying, thus making your opinion heard.

• 17 kim andre // Oct 7, 2008 at 2:25 pm

  @caffeinedisaster:

  ok i gona try to get word from u-torent or somthing so i can spell right hehe but uintil then i just gona try to do my spelling a litle bether.

  it is funny tho becose i can speak and understand english perfeckt! i can oalso read english oamoust perfect butt my writing is just messed up xD

• 18 Eddiemilz // Oct 7, 2008 at 2:33 pm

  Yep gota agree with some others.

  It’s pretty messed up, but this stuff happens all the time

• 19 wow // Oct 7, 2008 at 2:35 pm

  What a fag. Why would you make a level about 9/11.

  @kim andre
  I’m glad you can’t type. Makes me not take you serious.

• 20 Jolley22 // Oct 7, 2008 at 2:40 pm

  God I agree with kim andre I realize this LBP thing may be a little far but if people are going to have a sissy fit because they had 9/11 in a TV program or anything I just think it’s stupid 9/11 affected everyone. Doing things like making jokes in the expense of 9/11 is wrong but I am taking a second to look at the map I wish they hadn’t said 9/11 then no one could complain but they have so they deserve what they get.

• 21 kim andre // Oct 7, 2008 at 2:41 pm

  @wow

  i’m glad you so stupid. makes me not take YOU serious

• 22 kim andre // Oct 7, 2008 at 2:47 pm

  @Jolley22:

  glad to hear that you take it forom this point of view.
  and i chud not agre more

• 23 winner // Oct 7, 2008 at 2:51 pm

  Over reaction I think we need to not take these things seriously

• 24 caffeinedisaster // Oct 7, 2008 at 2:52 pm

  I guess my last post (rant) couldn’t get posted?

• 25 kim andre // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:06 pm

  @caffeinedisaster:

  it hapends somtime becose you go back and then the post wil reset and be deleted of some aburde reason :S
  doc shud fiks that

• 26 Sean "Rothbart" Workman // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:12 pm

  @caffeinedisaster: Your comment didn’t post because of your language at the end… it’s sitting in a “spam/inappropriate content” queue.

  No need for those types of comments anyway…

• 27 kim andre // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:21 pm

  @caffeinedisaster:

  HAHAHAHA PWND OWNED HAHAHAHAxD

• 28 blade2k6954 // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:30 pm

  while i agree with what alot of people are saying about just leave the person alone and they will go away it’s only going to take one person to link this youtube vid to fox news and we are going to have a massive sh*t storm on our hands about how video games corrupt the youth and lbp is some terrorist game and then ill informed conservatives are going to jump on that same band wagon and what could be one of the best games in this current gen will be smeared in controversy and possibly canceled or pulled from shelves and none of us want to see that

• 29 NoneOfYourBusiness // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:31 pm

  Even with this “simulator”, Frawlz still somehow loses….the powah of the planet compels you!!!!

• 30 caffeinedisaster // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:37 pm

  I guess I could have left out the last part.

  Poop!

• 31 caffeinedisaster // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:39 pm

  Is it better to say F**K?

• 32 blade2k6954 // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:43 pm

  @caffeinedisaster its probably best not to use the word all together lol

• 33 caffeinedisaster // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:45 pm

  Just got excited, I guess.
  Howd this skip the filter?

  wow // Oct 7, 2008 at 2:35 pm

  What a fag. Why would you make a level about 9/11.

• 34 kim andre // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:46 pm

  but i realy dont hope things like this gona ruin the game like limite the map editing tools. and if they do it i realy gona let out alot of hate on LBP

• 35 Showtime95 // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:47 pm

  Well, like I said before this was a major event here in the U.S. We don’t have terrorism here like other countries so this is pretty big for some of us. I just hope that this game will have some sort of approval system when it comes out. Like in the article, one little thing like this could bring this game down in the media (like I care, but just saying). If it was named something else then fine. My thing is making fun or recreating any serious tragedy, regardless if it is in the U.S. or not shouldn’t be allowed. We need to remember these events, and learn from them. Not mock them.

• 36 Sean "Rothbart" Workman // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:52 pm

  @caffeinedisaster: I would spend less time trying to defeat the profanity filter and more time trying to pick and choose words to express yourself without resorting to… well… profanity. If you absolutely can’t think of words that will work, just use “smurf” or something, we’ll figure it out… we’re not smurfing idiots…

  @Showtime95: well said.

• 37 blade2k6954 // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:57 pm

  @showtime umm what are you talking about??? we have terrorism in the us do you forget the oklahoma city building bombing or the unibomber? both were incidents of domestic terrorism also groups like the kkk or any other neo nazi organization or any street gang is considered a terrorist group its just we don’t call them terrorists i’m just glad he didnt decide to make some holocaust simulator or something else that could be even worse than this but i’m not going to be surprised when someone uses the ps eye to take pics of swastikas and plant them all over the level or gang signs and you have to kill other gang members its just going to be up to the other users to flag these levels and for mm to be quick about taking them down

• 38 caffeinedisaster // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:57 pm

  @ Rothbart.

  “Smurf” is a good compromise.

• 39 Sean "Rothbart" Workman // Oct 7, 2008 at 4:23 pm

  @blade2k6954: I took showtime’s statement to mean we don’t have regular/constant terrorist attacks like some part of the world (covered in the media nightly) not that we didn’t at all.

  I think there’s also a distinction to be made between hooligans that beat up or even lynch people and terrorists that blown themselves, other people, mass transit, buildings, etc. up or release nerve gas, biological weapons, etc. Statistically speaking, those things rarely if ever happen on US soil… *crosses fingers*

• 40 Tweep. // Oct 7, 2008 at 4:26 pm

  Well, in my eyes this isn’t something tasteful… Part of the beautiful thing about our country however is he HAS the right to put a level like this up…

  …If something like this gets taken down for being distasteful I could see Media Molecule getting sued…

• 41 Heavyfiregrunt // Oct 7, 2008 at 4:34 pm

  That guys an asshat

• 42 Sean "Rothbart" Workman // Oct 7, 2008 at 4:38 pm

  @Tweep: There is no constitutional right to video game level freedom. Nobody’s getting “sued” over removal of user-generated content…

• 43 Showtime95 // Oct 7, 2008 at 4:42 pm

  @Rothbart: That was exactly what I meant.

  Terrorism here in the U.S. is rare. Turn the world news on and just see how much terrorist attacks you here about and you will see that the U.S. isn’t mentioned. Everyone has there own domestic issues (gangs, cults…) but here in the U.S. we don’t have the mass murdering, suicide bombings…on a regular basis. While I love living here in the U.S. and love having the freedom of speech and all, there are things that need censoring and this is one of them.

  Americans are privileged to not have to deal with things like this everyday. This is why we take things like this seriously.

• 44 entropyAEGIS // Oct 7, 2008 at 5:24 pm

  @Showtime95: Well said

  Free speech is a wonderful right to have, but just because you can say or write almost anything without fear of retribution does not mean you always should. Both of the levels in the video are a good example of such, especially the second one. I was at least glad to see when he searched out the level that the first one to pop up was a 9/11 memorial and not just another simulator.

• 45 kim andre // Oct 7, 2008 at 5:34 pm

  this is a bad thing………

• 46 Hefty_Lefty // Oct 7, 2008 at 5:45 pm

  When I first read the blurb for this article, I was expecting a lot. Then, I watched the video. Talk about making a big deal out of nothing. I get that 9/11 was a terrible tragedy. But people have to understand that this was just a joke. It may have been a sick joke about a dark time for our country, but a joke none the less. I will admit that when I watched the video, I chuckled. I am sure that most of you listen to the podcasts. When the trio made a joke about Ike, did you tell them that they were all terrible people because they made light of a hurricane that destroyed homes and lives? No, if your like me, you probably laughed.

  All I’m saying is that we need to stop being so uptight about these types of things. As long as there are /b/-tards out there, there will always be people making fun of tragedy. If you don’t like something like this, then why would you put so much effort into telling people how much you dislike it. You are, maybe unknowingly, glorifying that which you claim to hate. Don’t believe me, just go out and rent Natural Born Killers. You’ll see what I’m talking about.

• 47 Mizzl FashizzL // Oct 7, 2008 at 6:07 pm

  @ entropy

  But where does freedom of speech end and where do offensive remarks begin?
  This is a very tricky path, because it works the other way around as well.

  @ Hefty

  Thank you for an American perspective that voices my foreign thoughts.

  This somehow reminds me of the Danish political cartoon of the muslim with the bomb-like turban. Flags were burned, Danish products were sanctioned and many European countries were trying to tiptoe around the whole thing to prevent offending any more muslims.
  But our flags they were allowed to burn, and let’s not even mention the places they wiped with them..

  I’m not saying it’s the same thing as this LBP 9/11 level, but it sure feels like the same kind of situation, because it’s given a lot of attention.

  Now, I absolutely agree with Rothbart about the risk of the media picking up on this, but let’s not confuse it with being easily offended.

• 48 Mizzl FashizzL // Oct 7, 2008 at 6:12 pm

  Oh and a ps @ kim andre: drop me a link and I’ll hook you up with a decent spell check, if you want. You can reach me at mizzl.fashizzl@hotmail.com

• 49 Jolley22 // Oct 7, 2008 at 6:19 pm

  I can’t decide if they will take this down(but I recon enough complaints would do it …. maybe) and if it does get pulled does this make rules tighter on what you can put in games.

  You never know in the future it could be like “You used the letter 9 on the side of that bus in your game and I know for a fact you were referring to the bus that was never found with the numbers 349 on the side I think I made my point” I was just exaggerating there.

  Qustion: Who thinks the level will be pulled?

• 50 Sean "Rothbart" Workman // Oct 7, 2008 at 6:25 pm

  @Jolley22: I do, if for no other reason than it’s called “9/11 Simulator”. Had it been a generically named level, or “Plane crash” maybe not, but it’s an intentional attempt to evoke a very “un-fun” feeling for what is most definitely supposed to be a “fun” game. Free speech and rights have NOTHING to do with this issue…

  It’s an inappropriate level in that it represents death and tradegy and it’s in a game that’s meant to appeal (largely) to anyone. I expect censorship to a certain level in user-generated content and this is the epitome of the type of levels that should be allowed, but only as private invite-only levels, not publicly published levels thrown out there than just anybody could run across them.

• 51 Drauglim // Oct 7, 2008 at 6:56 pm

  if this does get pulled does it mean it gets deleted from his harddrive? because if me and my friends want to make a map that isn’t suitable for other people i wouldn’t want it deleted because it was plugged into the internet. and also couldn’t they just involve a rating system rather than getting rid of what you make in a game that’s whole point is complete creativity and freedom.

• 52 NoneOfYourBusiness // Oct 7, 2008 at 9:22 pm

  I think offensive or inflamatory content like the “9/11 Simulator” should be moderated through some means.

  But mature or adult type content that may be created should have a way to be marked as such. Kind of like a Molecule Media ESRB.

• 53 entropyAEGIS // Oct 7, 2008 at 9:23 pm

  @Mizzl FashizzL

  You’re right, and unfortunately it is tricky to know where to draw the line. I would say common sense is a pretty good start, but even that’s hard for some.

• 54 Sean "Rothbart" Workman // Oct 7, 2008 at 9:52 pm

  @Drauglim: It’s my impression that private “invite only” stuff won’t be moderated like the public stuff will. I’m betting they may still offering some “reporting” feature, but I highly doubt one report will lead to a level getting yanked… so if you keep inviting people who object to your private level, it may eventually get yanked, but if you keep inviting people and they report it, maybe it NEEDS to be yanked.

• 55 dtcarson // Oct 7, 2008 at 10:58 pm

  Just because you *can* say something, doesn’t mean you *should*. Try saying whatever you want to your wife/gf, teacher, priest, boss, and see how that works.
  Freedom of speech is something special and important in the US, however, freedom of speech neither means freedom FROM speech, nor that there can be speech with no consequences. It simply means there is no federal law abridging freedom of speech, unless seditious or treasonous.
  If Sony or whoever decides to pull the level or block the level from being transmitted, they are well within their rights to do so.
  I think the level is an abomination, but I also think it’s probably some dumbsmurf kid trying to be attention-getting by referring to a tragedy that affected people worldwide. Trolling, basically. Anyway, I think the best reaction would be to vote it down, report it to Sony if it truly offends you, then ignore it and any other levels created by Mr. AttentionSeeker.

• 56 Sean "Rothbart" Workman // Oct 7, 2008 at 11:02 pm

  @dtcarson: I have to say, reading your very well written comment and finding “dumbsmurf” in the middle of it made my night! Thank you!

• 57 kim andre // Oct 8, 2008 at 12:27 am

  wow 56 coments! never seen that meny before! only at kotaku but that website is like 99% biger than sarcasticgamer xD

• 58 Cruithne // Oct 8, 2008 at 3:15 am

  I’m sorry but the hypocrisy here is astounding.
  Don’t you all play games every day which are set against a backdrop of other countries war and suffering?
  What makes America so special that your pain is somehow greater than anyone else’s?
  Of course 9/11 was a terrible inexcusable affront to humanity but it’s also an historical event that is no more free from being interpreted and used than any other event.
  If you want to tell me that you don’t play Call Of Duty or any other games that uses past or present terrible events as a backdrop then fair enough but the truth is that most of you do it every day.

• 59 kim andre // Oct 8, 2008 at 4:41 am

  i cros my finger for this game to bee good and i hope things like this dont hapends becose when some smurf think they can gt a lot of atensjon we shud not give it tho dem, becose if we do even more of this is going to hapend

• 60 entropyAEGIS // Oct 8, 2008 at 8:10 am

  @Cruithne

  Sure, I’d be willing to bet that close to everyone here at one point or another has played a war-based game like Battlefield 2 or Call of Duty which are set up against a back-drop of a war typically based around some triggering event. However, none of these ever actually have you playing that event itself. You only take the role of the “good guys” fighting off the “bad guys” after they’ve done something awful, such as a massive terrorist attack. People are used to playing a games where they fight terrorists to free hostages, but you almost never see it the other way around (the only example I could think of was Counterstrike, and even then the scoring is set so that killing the hostages is in fact “bad” for the terrorists). Also, even in cases where the setting is particularly brutal, it is always between people with guns. You’re never running around killing civilians. There are hundreds of simulators for D-Day, which was a particularly brutal event, but it was still essentially two groups of people shooting each other.

  Although war games can be exceedingly violent, their is a line that they don’t cross. A 9/11 simulator is crossing that line.

• 61 kalroy // Oct 8, 2008 at 10:08 am

  “9/11 was a tragic event but unless your relatives were directly invloved in it then why does it make you so angry?”

  9/11 was not a “tragic event”, it was a vicious attack on non-combatants by a group whose stated purpose is the utter subjugation of the western world and the destruction of America. Considering the goals of Al Qaeda, any attack should make all americans not simply angry. Those who have thrived, and continue to thrive, under the protective blanket that America has provided should be equally angered by it.

  Hurricanes, earthquakes, automotive accidents et. al. are tragic events. 9/11 was a vicious attack and an act of war.

  Kalroy

• 62 Cruithne // Oct 8, 2008 at 12:34 pm

  @ entropyAEGIS

  OK, you raised fair points in your post but I have to tell you that as someone who grew up in Northern Ireland I have seen may American movies where the terrorists who often tried to kill me and my family were treated as heroes.
  And for the record as a Brit, our single biggest loss of life due to a terrorist attack was also 9/11 so it’s not as if I don’t understand why this hurts.
  I don’t want to sound as if I’m being deliberately offensive to people just because they’re Americans and not my nationality but I still think we have to understand that whilst America may be the world’s superpower, you do not have a monopoly on pain and suffering, nor the right to dictate what is and isn’t acceptable.
  Ultimately, if you don’t like this type of reaction to an event which happened a few years ago, and I think it iss in poor taste, then you have the option to ignore it.

• 63 mr flamethro // Oct 8, 2008 at 9:16 pm

  omg that’s horrible!

• 64 holoyopo // Oct 8, 2008 at 11:09 pm

  who cares it hardly depicts 9/11

• 65 Homicidal Panda // Oct 12, 2008 at 1:12 am

  Holoyopo… as an American Teen let me say this… from the very bottom of my heart….
  I hope you get AIDS… and die… slowly…

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