People want the ability to create their own songs in guitar hero. Sounds like a cool idea right? WRONG!
Activision Chairman and CEO, Bobby Kotock, stated that the technology to do so is still about 5 years off. That gets a sigh of relief from me. I’m not doubting that it would be cool to play your favorite Sarcastic Gamer parody songs at home on your system of choice. That would be sweet. It may also be a way for a few talented individuals to get their music out there.
Then there would be the piles and piles of crap that would come out. That would warrant this response from most gamers.
No one wants their guitar hero controller broken.
Source Kotaku
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30 responses so far ↓
1 Tim The Tiny Tonic // Mar 5, 2008 at 3:08 pm
love animal house
2 Dexyn // Mar 5, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I see a lot of “good” things that can come out of making your own music. If Rock Band 2 can pull it off there is little to no doubt in my mind that I would be putting as much Heavy Metal as possible and trying my hardest to pull it off on hard mode. I want this to happen, for sure. However, I don’t think I want it to happen on Guitar Hero…I like the lay out of Rock Band personally.
3 NoneOfYourBusiness // Mar 5, 2008 at 3:20 pm
I don’t see this being a problem if the music developer would create its own site with dedicated servers to upload songs to. From there people could download different songs for free and rate them accordingly.
There could be contests or sweepstakes for the best guitar hero or rock band cover for a certain band or song. It could potentially increase the amount of competitivness in those genres.
4 Sean "rothbart" Workman // Mar 5, 2008 at 3:26 pm
I think anyone that sees this as feasible (with the same level of quality we’re used to) is frankly, crazy.
At best, it will pale in comparison to what we’re being offered now. There’s simply no way to take an MP3 or CD track and (in a compelling way) separate out all the notes and instruments in a way that we experience what we’re experiencing now with the songs available.
Fergie Ferg’s right… it would result (largely) in nothing but crap…
5 Lono // Mar 5, 2008 at 3:32 pm
I’ll tell you what, this Fergie Ferg is way better than Dave.
6 Doc // Mar 5, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Who thinks we should extend Dave’s Fergie-Ferg status for another week? Raise your hand.
7 FaMiCuS // Mar 5, 2008 at 3:47 pm
@rothbart
Yes the separating of the tracks would be the hard part, but the technology to make our on tracks is not 5 years off it has been already done, don’t believe me, search guitar hero custom tracks on youtube. People have been making custom songs since Guitar Hero 2 on PS2, granted to do it your PS2 had to be modded but gamers already have the tech to do this.
@Lono
So true.
8 FaMiCuS // Mar 5, 2008 at 3:47 pm
@Doc
Both hands are raised.
9 Tim The Tiny Tonic // Mar 5, 2008 at 3:50 pm
*raising hands*
10 FaMiCuS // Mar 5, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Also Frets on Fire has been doing this for about a year and a half now. Maybe they should hire the FoF devs to make the next to make the Guitar Hero game. Actually I take that back, Rock Band should hire them since Rock Band is better.
11 NoneOfYourBusiness // Mar 5, 2008 at 3:54 pm
*raises hand*
Fergie Ferg is a respectable macho name that, I feel, defines SacasticGamer as a whole.
Back on topic, I never said it would be the same level of quality. But it would open up the genre to music buffs or programmers that want to create thier own custom songs. And who says it has to be a famous song, why cant it be any tune.
12 LuckyEMS // Mar 5, 2008 at 4:09 pm
http://www.customhero.net
and
http://www.scorehero.com/custom_songs.php
requirements:
10 minutes tweaking and the ability to actually play with the right MP3
if people can pull it off for GH 1/2/3 im sure they can do it for GH4
13 Lono // Mar 5, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Wow, rothbart proved wrong? OMG… Someone sound the alarms at Sarcasticgamer HQ…
14 FaMiCuS // Mar 5, 2008 at 4:17 pm
@Lono
Do I get a cookie?
15 DJ Res // Mar 5, 2008 at 4:29 pm
At least one more week fellas!
Both hands are up Lono
16 Chuck Norris // Mar 5, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Fergie Ferg forever!
17 Paladin58 // Mar 5, 2008 at 8:23 pm
*holds up hands, starts waving*
18 Sean "rothbart" Workman // Mar 6, 2008 at 1:01 am
@FaMiCuS (and Lono taking the 2nd hand pot shots)… note that I said “at the same quality” and go back and play those custom tracks and frets on fire you’re talking about… miss a note on purpose and listen to it STILL PLAY in the song. Therefore, the experience is NOT the same.
You can suck to high heaven in a custom track of Stairway to Heaven but you’ll hear every single note of the song… that is NOT the Rock Band/Guitar Hero way. It’s most definitely “lesser” in my opinion. And if you can write an algorithm that goes in and correctly removes individual notes of individual instruments from an MP3 file, well you’re a damned genius, what are you doing monkeying around with videogames for? Don’t you have some espionage stuff to do?
Oh, I almost forgot… *raises hand*
19 bsf94 // Mar 6, 2008 at 1:13 am
*Rasises hand*
20 Iyaoyas615 // Mar 6, 2008 at 2:03 am
*raises hand*
21 Ohgoyo // Mar 6, 2008 at 4:37 am
It wouldn’t be so bad if:
A:people could get it onto xbox live
and
B:some poor fools have to sit through ALL of the song that they make and delete/let them advance to go onto xbox live.
22 regua // Mar 6, 2008 at 6:34 am
@Rothbart: don’t you think that this is better than nothing? I mean, being able to play any song you like on Guitar Hero is nice, and if there were some tools to make the songs Guitarheroable (with the “missing notes” you mentioned), it would be great fun to play songs like Hey Mr. Thompson.
Neither Neversoft with Activision nor Harmonix with EA would add such possibility to their games, though. Half of the money they actually get from the GH and RB is from all the users buying their favourite songs, not just guitarheroising their gigantic mp3 collection.
Oh, and I got used to Fergie Ferg. Let it stay.
23 Sean P. // Mar 6, 2008 at 6:46 am
Yeah, *raises hand*. Fergie Ferg must stay. Forever. He’s a cool dude.
24 FaMiCuS // Mar 6, 2008 at 9:33 am
@rothbart
On the sound quality part I totally agree with you. But on the tech to put together the songs is a different story. We already have people making the low quality songs like crazy, but I don’t think it take us (gamers) 5 years to get the sound right.
25 farcry15 // Mar 6, 2008 at 10:39 am
the world is not mature enough
26 Sean "rothbart" Workman // Mar 6, 2008 at 11:27 am
@FaMiCuS: but it’s an ENORMOUS step to go from “arranging notes appropriately” to “being able to disect music files in a way that will allow other music to continue to play while individual guitar notes are missing”. I’d argue it’s not feasible to generically do it for every song in such a way that we’ll be able to use it on just about anything…
I have no doubt _some_ songs will be possible (like a purely acoustic or solo instrument performance) but full on songs with vocals and multiple instruments, reverb/effects/etc… I don’t think it’s just a matter of time, I think it won’t happen.
27 Slayer50513 // Mar 6, 2008 at 7:39 pm
@Doc
*raises hand, makes a photoshop image with one hand, then posts it all over the US saying “vote fergie ferg for life”*
big enough vote?
>>BUY A SARCASTIC GAMER T-SHIRT & MOUSE PAD OR ELSE.<<
28 Phoenixdive // Mar 7, 2008 at 4:34 am
How about some ways around it?
Having a single mp3 for every type of sound played? That way you could easily stop playing the guitar track at the right time should the player miss the note while still having bass/drums/vocals playing in the background.
I believe it would be more feasible than to actually dissect a single mp3 track.
29 motorhead36 // Mar 17, 2008 at 3:56 am
doesn’t FoF have an option to take 2 mp3 tracks, one for guitar, one for the rest of the song, and play them as 2 separate tracks so just the guitar is cut out when you noob out
not 100% on it, but i think i remember it like that.
30 wiiomatic // Mar 20, 2008 at 9:20 pm
just thought I would *Raise My Hands*
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