42 responses so far ↓

• 1 Shahin // Mar 26, 2008 at 4:25 pm

  i go it and it come in you se it and you yeh , what you n4g man err

  you man child or lady boy people err

• 2 Lono // Mar 26, 2008 at 4:28 pm

  What the hell was that comment, Shahin?

  English, please?

• 3 LJ // Mar 26, 2008 at 4:36 pm

  I very confused much?

• 4 farsendor // Mar 26, 2008 at 4:44 pm

  wow you know i wouldn’t even have known about sarcasticgamer.com if it wasn’t for n4g.com. but everyone always fails to mention that this was totally different last year.

  if you said anything positive of ps3 you would get blasted into a million pieces times are changing.

• 5 Johnno // Mar 26, 2008 at 4:49 pm

  I though N4g was all user submitted articles. Like users find articles online and they tag them on N4G.

  It is not that N4G has a hard on for the PS3 but more the people who are tagging the articles are avid Ps3 owners.

  Goto the Gamefaqs forums and you can find the avid xbox360 fan posting in every forum on the site.

• 6 binkery // Mar 26, 2008 at 4:55 pm

  yeah they pretty much do and not a bad article about the PS3 is submitted. If one is submitted it’s quickly vetoed out.

• 7 Doc // Mar 26, 2008 at 5:03 pm

  @binkery

  I can attest to that.

• 8 Who's biased? // Mar 26, 2008 at 5:18 pm

  What? OK…
  1 and 5, 2 and 7 are pretty much the same so thats just stupid.. on N4G’s part.
  But 3, 4 , 6, 8 and 9 all multiplatform news or plain xbox news. Whats that about? Just goes to show what i always knew anyway. That SG(you) have a hard-on for XO. Trying to make it seem like sites that submit PS3 positive news must be biased. Whats even more funny is how you (as a site) dont approve of EAs BF:BC buying guns for a small fee and think it should all be included(in which i totatlly agree) but somehow you find it right to pay for what everyone else gets free.. thats right, i went there playing your games online.

• 9 ummm, Yeah... // Mar 26, 2008 at 5:34 pm

  @Who’s biased?
  ooooooohh, BURN. But seriously, about that last comment. What would you rather have, a free peice of crap, or an inexpensive peice of delicious, content-laden cake?

• 10 Who's biased? // Mar 26, 2008 at 5:51 pm

  haha… yeah which console is the crappy one that keeps having enough failures, so a pro XO site(this one) actually do a parody song about those failures. Ring of fire, ring a bell? I’d take the delicious cake cos i know quality when i see it :D.
  But you’d prolly take the inexpensive piece of crap?

• 11 moocow // Mar 26, 2008 at 6:00 pm

  Yeah, way too many PS3 articles on N4G. It’s been a while I haven’t read a good RRoD article, they NEVER get old. Way to go M$ and its sheeps!

• 12 ummm, Yeah... // Mar 26, 2008 at 6:02 pm

  @Who’s biased?
  Sorry I couldn’t comment on your other points, but now I can, after reading the article. Let me tell you something, bud. Not only does SG not approve of EA’s BS because it should be free, but they despise that because EA is blatantly disregarding and screwing over their fans. This is a complete sh*thead move on their part, as this already-megacorporation is now showing its true colors.

  “We don’t want to alter the way game developers make their games, we just want to guide them.” Which one of your advisors told you to isolate your developers’ fan base by making a should-be-free feature um, not free? If this is what EA’s going to do for all the developers its acquired or going to acquire, we, as a community, have to stop them before it happens. SG is rallying the gaming troops, and that is why they oppose this upcoming sh*tstorm. Not saying you disagreed, but an unnecessary charge as opposed to a necessary one (for XBL) are two completely different situations.

• 13 Who's biased? // Mar 26, 2008 at 6:11 pm

  Taken 5 mins ago: http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdhv0.jpg
  (big screenshot)
  Now my Paint skillz arent good, but just makin a point.. dont be haters.

  I totally agree with the EA thing, but totally disagree with having to pay for live when you have gotten it for free since the beginning of time on PC’s(pc gamer here) and now free on Sonys and Nintendos part. People agreeing to pay for something that has been free makes other companies realize that they also could charge for their service.. and soon there will be no free online gaming services.

• 14 ummm, Yeah... // Mar 26, 2008 at 6:20 pm

  @Who’s biased?
  Okay, let me figure something out. You switched my words around, did you? See now, here’s the funny thing. Even with all the failures, even with that huge problem, which console is more popular? I thought so. Those unbiased consumers, the large masses, have chosen the superior system already. Between the PS3 and the X360, which console has better (as of now) exclusives? Which has the superior online mode? -cough- -cough- -360-

  Honestly, that’s just sad on the PS3’s part. Your console can’t outsell a failing system? Really? Is it THAT big of a dud? But I’m going to stop slinging mud. I’ve made my valid points, and if all you can do is switch words around, I’m done arguing.

  P.S. How You Killed Your Brand, No Frickin Games, that’s how many, 2? Meanwhile the 360 hardware (not the games) has gotten one complaint, as opposed to the tons of complaints against the PS3? I think 360 wins on that account. I think your a PS3 fanboy, buddy. Guess I’m not done arguing.

• 15 NoneOfYourBusiness // Mar 26, 2008 at 6:39 pm

  @ummm, Yeah…

  Um, the 3 big players on this site (doc , dave and lono) all owned only 360’s for the longest time, and this site in general is the farthest thing from any fanboyism.

  Also, your P.S. didnt make sense. can you please clarify so I can accurately pwn you? thx

• 16 ummm, Yeah... // Mar 26, 2008 at 6:45 pm

  @Who’s biased?
  Sorry, pages don’t refresh while I’m typing. Anyway, let me explain just WHY XBL requires payment. I’ll just compare the online services for a sec.

  Playstation 3: Free. Barely there. Horrid interface. Small amount of people with mics. No in-game support. No cross-game support. Done.

  Wii: Free. Annoying friend code need/maintenance. No mic support. L.A.G. No real features. Done.

  Xbox 360: $50 per year. XBL Marketplace support. In-game support. Great interface. Quick and easy to use. Plagued by a-holes all around the world AKA griefers. Constant maintenance. Done.

  Now you tell me which you think is best.

• 17 ummm, Yeah... // Mar 26, 2008 at 6:56 pm

  @NoneOfYourBusiness
  The SG crew has only had 360’s because they wanted the system that would allow them to best communicate with their fan base and each other. That being the Xbox 360, they got it. Of course, that’s just speculation, but hey, why don’t you ask them?

  And about the P.S., I’ll explain it to you. I was referring to Who’s Biased?’s statement that about the Ring of Fire parody. Now, take your best shot.

  BTW,
  I in no way stated that SG was biased.

• 18 NoneOfYourBusiness // Mar 26, 2008 at 8:04 pm

  You sound pretty biased against the PS3.

  I don’t know what barely there means to you but the Ps3 has a pretty solid install base of gamers. Not nearly as much as 360 or Wii, but big enough to have a solid community. And PSN is not terrible, its just not as big as XBL

  Cross-game support = Home, and by ingame support I assume you mean XMB, which im pretty sure was confirmed to be out this year.
  The interface is pretty neat once you get used to it, not even close to horrid.

  So after all that, Half a billion dollars in subscriptions and all you get is XBL? nickel n diming you along the way? I’m just saying, XBL Live is good and even Xbox is good, but the gap between PSN and XBL is Not <$500,000,000+.

• 19 Who's biased? // Mar 26, 2008 at 8:05 pm

  I say PC, Free and best online community.. Which i think is fading away thanks to “morons” who agree to pay for the service. i.e I dont want to pay for my online gaming (a pc gamer) but i think thanks to the fact that people are willing to pay for live, companies will reason it as in thats ok to do(charge for what has been free since the beginning). Now.. The PS3 has a faster growing first year than 360 did, and is now selling better for a couple of months going compared to the 360.. but You and I both know that 1 year ahead makes more sales. As for exclusives, the PC has the best ones so far, as it gets the 360 “exclusives” after a couple of months anyway, but as far as consoles go 360 or so i’ve heard. I’ve also heard that the PSN is being worked on and all those fancy ingame stuff will be coming to it. I’ll go with Xfire and the computer as its clearly the best choice. Finally I clearly state that SG is Biased but its their site, do with it what they will. I’m just an avid N4G user and dont want no “bias” namecalling by a biased site.. thats just immoral

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• 21 Habadasher // Mar 26, 2008 at 9:23 pm

  @Who’s biased?

  Seriously love the irony there in your name!

• 22 NoneOfYourBusiness // Mar 26, 2008 at 9:40 pm

  How are they biased again?

  They criticize what they know and dont try to talk crap they no nothing about. Recently, they got PS3’s and If you check recent history they have begun to praise and criticize it. I don’t see how that is bias, I see that being pretty honest with themselves.

  Wii will be sometime in the future, but the forums still get pretty equal attention for all 3 consoles. So again…”Whos Biased?”

• 23 ummm, Yeah... // Mar 26, 2008 at 10:11 pm

  @NoneOfYourBusiness
  Good points. GOOD points. First, let me explain to you what “barely there” means to me. To me, it means basic. All PS3 really gives you is a friend’s list, from which you can what? Send messages? Chat? Awesome. Why is it that there’s no player’s list? Why do I have to end the game I’m playing, remembering intricate names so that I can enter them at the menu? Just so that I can play with the person in the game that I just left? Sweet. That’s really basic. But I guess that’s not as bad as the Wii, where you really can’t make new friends seeing as you need friend codes to message people, and you can’t message friend codes to non-friends.

  Home plans to expand that, by adding very XBLish features, while giving it a Sims interface. Meanwhile (and lets hope they change this) you must walk for a certain lengthy amount of time, just to get to a game room or to one of your friends’ rooms, as opposed to just hitting three buttons to join the game as in XBL. Sorry but I really don’t know what the hell XMB is, but if it’s not implemented in Home, then that’s ridiculous. Why are there so many necessary add-ons? Could it be because PS3 sucks? …Sorry about that. It’s not like I haven’t tried PS3 and Wii, it’s just that the XBL support is just SO much better. And if people can pay $15 a month for WoW, then what’s the problem with $50 a year. Also, what are you talking about “all you get”? There’s a lot of substance in that package, and it’s allowed Microsoft to provide a steady stream of DLC and top shelf games to consumers. It even funds celebrity gaming appearances and other events. So what does the PS3 do with its still-more-than-the-360 price? Nothing? Thought so.

  I’ll get to you next, biased.

• 24 Animathias // Mar 26, 2008 at 10:21 pm

  The 360 (and Wii) has been criticized on this site almost as much as the PS3. Look back to the articles from Christmas ‘07 to a week or so into January, and you’ll see plenty of hate towards the 360 because of Live messing up.

  On top of that, the RRoD and DDoD (Disc Drive of Death), have been circulating through the forums and articles since I’ve been here, and there’s also the RRoD parody song.

  That said, for the longest time it was hard to not sound biased when the only person with a PS3 was Rothbart, and he’s been singing its praises (and some weakpoints) from the mountain tops. With Lono and Dave joining the club, you’re going to start seeing alot more praise (and probably some more hating) about the PS3, because they’ll be able to get some hands-on time with it.

  Now, from my personal experience, the PSN isn’t nearly as good as Xbox Live. Does that mean the PSN is horrible? No. But it means after having some go-time with it, it doesn’t make me want to cut off my Live subscription. Maybe once Home is released, the XMB and PSN will be more streamlined - but no one knows for certain.

  That brings me to my final statement - every PS3 fan uses arguments about things that haven’t come to fruition yet to clout their system as the better one. There’s no argument there. That’s simply fact. You’re saying that the PSN is rivaling Xbox Live because of features that have been announced, but not implemented. That argument states that at the moment, Xbox Live is better.

  To point out just how silly that is, I’ll say this:
  When the Wii does away with friend codes, has a streamlined dashboard interface with full friend list support, in-game voice chat, and cross-game communication/invites it will be better than Xbox Live because it will be free.

  Take those words as you will, I’ll probably get flamed as an Xbot. Sadly, I barely play my 360 anymore, and my gaming time is taken up by the PC.

• 25 Animathias // Mar 26, 2008 at 10:22 pm

  Dang.. didn’t realize how long that was.. I might as well have written an article.

• 26 sifer24 // Mar 26, 2008 at 10:27 pm

  actully that was really worth reading animathias put these dam fanboys in there place

• 27 RaiseHavok // Mar 26, 2008 at 10:36 pm

  I detest fanboys and generally try to avoid them at all costs. I do this by avoiding sites that have a “console war” section in their forums. I won’t name the site, but, based on the fact that I won’t name it, you can probably guess what site it is. However, I believe the article, “100 Reasons Fanboys Hate XBox,” was just part one of a three part series by Gamesradar. The other two parts were why fanboys hate Playstation and Nintendo. So, at least Gamesradar spreads the hate equally.

• 28 LJ // Mar 26, 2008 at 10:40 pm

  @ Animathias

  Is there way I can bow down to you via internet? Cause what you just said made me feel so much less like an outcast and a weird guy at the same time. lol

• 29 ummm, Yeah... // Mar 26, 2008 at 10:41 pm

  @Who’s biased?
  Ok;ay, you must be a PC enthusiast. You constantly praise the PC for free online, well listen, that’s because almost EVERYBODY plays PC to some extent. And your constant warning of “other companies will think it’s alright to [charge for online]” um, World of Warcraft much? And a few years ago, PC gamers would’ve had to fend for themselves. The only reason PC users are getting 360 exclusives is that Microsoft can afford to thanks to what? XBL profits? Alright then.

  It’s all fine to rep your favorite platform, but it’s ignorant to do so while arguing that somebody else is biased. What? And you’re not? Honestly, we all know that PC has the best community. It’s been out for what? Like 30 or 40 years as a game console? More? I really don’t know. But what I do know is that of the current gaming consoles and their online functions, 360 is currently the best, hands down. There is absolutely no reason why PS3 couldn’t implement the same features, given an extra year of development time.

  People only pay for things that they want. If they didn’t want awesome online, they wouldn’t pay for it. The fact that consumers are only willing to pay for services they will use and feel are worth it shows that times are changing. The consumer will not pay for things that are not needed, and the industry knows this. If XBL had less features, then the price might have been nonexistant. But the fact remains that XBL is a great aid to the online gaming experience, and it needs a price to maintain its status.

  Now don’t get me wrong, Xfire is all well and good, in fact I have it. But it’s still not XBL. It comes really damn close, but it’s not the same. XBL allows gamers to communicate with EVERYONE, seeing as all the users technically must have it. Whereas in Xfire, if a person you meet online doesn’t have the software, then you can’t contact them unless you swap AIM or MSN or whatever. XBL eliminates the “if” factor, providing a more reliable source of online gaming. Sorry, but XBL trumps all, at least as of now. I sincerely hope that PS3 gets its sh*t together so people can stop trash talking the hell out of it. But until it does, it’ll continue, to the point that all, even I, will throw down with fanboys at any time.

• 30 LJ // Mar 26, 2008 at 10:41 pm

  @ RaiseHavok

  Are you thinking of SDF and MDF cause if you are then your tottaly right. May their bones rought in hella

• 31 ummm, Yeah... // Mar 26, 2008 at 10:58 pm

  @Animathias
  Nice work man. I feel the same way as you. Sorry my comment took so damn long to write, but it basically states my stance on the whole thing, even though it was directed toward Who’s biased?. I was actually writing it while you posted yours. Anyway, just glad somebody else gets it.

  @sifer24
  I hope you weren’t calling me a fanboy. I really do. That’s the last thing I need. Because if I start getting into everything about the 360, then I will sound like a fanboy. I just believe that it’s the best console out there. I mean, I played PS2 all the time instead of my Xbox, but when 360 came out, even after waiting until PS3 and Wii released, I still found the 360 much more appealing. It had what I wanted: online play, great games, and a good community. Now, had the PS3 done right when it came out, I might’ve gotten it. And the Wii just didn’t appeal to me at all. I just don’t like being accused of fanboyism.

• 32 Who's biased? // Mar 27, 2008 at 4:08 am

  Animathias: While I havent been on this site since I read a pro PS3 article by Rothbart i guess(not sure) and then saw it shot down by Doc cos of nonbelief. That just made me realize what this site was all about, now as you say that might have changed NOW. And the difference between the wii having all that argument and the PS fanboys home argument is that its already in the works for PS3 it IS coming(confirmed), looking at the bigger picture and not just 2 secs from now.

  Umm yeah: Wouldnt say the reason is XBL profits i’d say its the revenues they hope to get from selling the game on another platform. The PC has the best online community cos its has all XBL has and more and its free to use. Yes its been around for many many years but guess what? So has XBL, since the original xbox and they’ve been improving it since. Live has been perfected for around 6 years so I wouldnt say Sony has to come to that level in the first year, but hopefully they’ll get their free version that is about the same standards in a year or 2. Maybe its just me but i dont want to talk to everyone, I got my friends on xfire and if I play with someone I want to befriend I ask for xfire or ask them to get it.. not like its that hard and difficult. And last but not least I’m against the idiots that pay for mmorpgs as much as I am for live, do you think its a good thing people start paying to play a game they already bought? paying to play a online game online?

• 33 Who's biased? // Mar 27, 2008 at 4:20 am

  I know I’m biased. Like thats a secret To PC gaming and preserving it as it is FREE.
  Noneofyourbusiness: How are they biased again? Well why is this article here? Whats next, Sonydefenseforce has a hardon for the PS3?
  No ofc not, cos thats an actual fact, this is just trying to make a site look bad

• 34 Minbad // Mar 27, 2008 at 5:34 am

  You’re right… I think I’ll go a few minutes to some gametrailers.com just for the balance…

• 35 Monte // Mar 27, 2008 at 8:29 am

  This article is hilarious, made my day!! XD

• 36 RaiseHavok // Mar 27, 2008 at 8:47 am

  @LJ

  Actually, I was referring to the former home of Jeff Gertsmann, but thanks for steering me clear of those sites as well.

• 37 Dez // Mar 27, 2008 at 9:24 am

  I wish people would stop going on about PC gaming online being free. Its hardly free. Someone pays for it. All those dedicated servers for Call of Duty 4, Counter Strike, Battlefield etc etc are paid for, largely by the communities and clans that provide them. Sure you can run your own localised listen servers for games if you want, but rarely is it that any games are suitable for that. So just remember, just because you personally aren’t paying for it. Someone out there is paying for your online enjoyment.

• 38 Lono // Mar 27, 2008 at 12:12 pm

  Punking N4G FTW!!!

• 39 ummm, Yeah... // Mar 27, 2008 at 3:41 pm

  @Who’s biased?
  OMG. How do you not know why this is such a problem? A supposedly fair site is giving an unfair amount of coverage to one specific platform. And if you’re thinking that’s what SG does, then you have problems. SG is a fair site, giving many articles to every system, whether they be bad or good. Unfortunately, in the PS3’s case, most of them happen to be bad. Why? Maybe because the standards have changed, and the PS3 doesn’t meet them. Also, they have a constant stream of BS spouting from them. There’s a great chance that the PS3’s year of 2008 will be much better, and once that happens, then maybe the hating will stop. But until then, bad news will keep coming about the PS3. In this way, SG is not biased. Also, it’s not like they’re the only ones who realize the craptacular PS3. Go to any other really fair site, and you’ll see the same.

• 40 Who's biased? // Mar 28, 2008 at 10:26 am

  I have and they dont make silly “articles” (READ blogs) about how other sites are biased when they arent.

• 41 PrinceGaming // Mar 29, 2008 at 3:28 pm

  Who’s biased - look at the article. N4G is clearly biased as it’s doing little more than singing PS3’s praises. SG is not biased as 1) it points out faults and strong points in all consoles, 2) has a team of writers with different opinions, none of whom are shut out and 3) is opposed to any and all fanboyism, the most recent Hump-Day Update talks about this. I don’t mind you having a different opinion on the console war, but saying that N4G isn’t biased after reading that article makes as much sense as calling rothbart an Xbot.

• 42 Percevil // Mar 31, 2008 at 4:39 pm

  Well perhaps you missed the last console war. Did you watch tv or read news before it was ps3 and 360 of course you did and it was all ps3. The ps3 has the most loyal fans even if they are still playing the ps2 if you have the most fans its easy to get the most articles on n4g. Plus if that many sony fans show up there and not enough xbox fans to stop them then who’s article should be up there. hmmm cater to people who dont show up or to our fanbase. I’m pretty sure this was just a stab at trying to get your article on n4g so you could get some hits though.

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