I heard it debated, and I understand it being a better console can be debated. But I mean I think bottom line the PS3 has the most power. I searched and couldn't find a discussion about this. If there is one let me know and lock this post. Anyways, If you think the PS3 isn't the most powerful post it here and you think it is post it here too. Lets try to compromise. And try not to flame.

On a specsheet.
the ps3 is written down to be more powerful.
but according to the web the xbox 360 can dish the power out better due to its custom video card can handle it better.
(ill try find the link to back this later)

here's one of the sites for comparing the ps3vsxbox360
http://uk.gamespot.com/features/6125087/index.html?type=tech

lol well i dunno. I think in terms of raw power it must go to the PS3.

But then i hear things about graphics card being better on the 360 etc and the PS3 has bottleneck yada so i dont think there is actually a definite anwser. Ask again next christmas and we may have an anwser. :D

Yea but I mean in the end. If Sony can pull its head out of its ass, and get it together and get some good games. Then, I think that the PS3 will have the best looking games. I mean if people really tried to make a good game, I think that the game could look better than any console on the PS3 just because it is a $600 powerhouse (paperweight). I mean I think the ps3 has the ability to make better looking games. I'm not saying they are out there I'm not even saying they are gonna be out there, but it has the ability to make better games than any console I mean with that power think of the AI they could have in the game, the graphics and how many objects on the screen they could have.

ps3 = raw power
360=style=good library of games + An army of crazy fanboy's.
Wii= no power at all = games suck on it =console is shit

ps3 = raw power
360=style=good library of games + An army of crazy fanboy's.
Wii= no power at all = games suck on it =console is shit

Yea that is about the way I look at it.

Ps3 = Doesnt Overheat, No FRICKEN GAMES, Games are crappy in overall, even graphics are not Next Gen

360= AWSOME games, preffered graphics, ring of fire is crap, awsome graphics

Wii= Awsome games, kiddie console somtimes, hard to move with the motion censored remotes when playing shooters

Ps3 = Doesnt Overheat, No FRICKEN GAMES, Games are crappy in overall, even graphics are not Next Gen

360= AWSOME games, preffered graphics, ring of fire is crap, awsome graphics

Wii= Awsome games, kiddie console somtimes, hard to move with the motion censored remotes when playing shooters

True but the graphics are not next gen because if you're a developer which one do you want to spend more money on looking good? The one that didn't sell alot of consoles or the one that has a huge consumer base. That is why the games don't look as good. It's because the game companies don't want to spend that much time and money making a game look cleaner and better for something they are going to get less money for.

Given the fact that the PS3 isn't making use of all that "raw power", frankly means it doesn't have said power at all.

At least right now.

Yea that is about the way I look at it.

im glad im not the only one who sees it like that

Given the fact that the PS3 isn't making use of all that "raw power", frankly means it doesn't have said power at all.

At least right now.

Yea true but it does have it in there lol. That is the point I'm getting at that all the 360 fanboys don't want to admit.

Ps3 = ... Games are crappy in overall, even graphics are not Next Gen

Your depth of knowledge concerning PS3 content and capabilities has left us stunned. Your opinions are obviously without equal, and will be valued above all others in this section of the sarcastic gamer forums. Please continue to enlighten us with your firsthand experience on this console.

Wow, how'd I miss this thread... we've discussed this very topic over at the GamerCast Network forums a couple times and there are some things that need to be considered...

Yeah, most people "in the know" clearly admit the PS3 has more computational power. Period. The Cell and it's SPEs when properly utilized can run circles around a system like the 360 even with it's three cores. For some types of processing this difference is more pronounced than others.

Some of you have mentioned how the GPU on the 360 is more powerful than the GPU on the PS3 and give the very barebones description of that situation, yes, it's true. But what isn't clear is that the way the Cell + SPEs work, some of the workload that traditionally would be done via the GPU can be done by one (or more) of the SPEs and simply fed to the GPU. When you look at it that way, the benefits of the 360's GPU are countered and once people come to grips with the techniques and true power of the SPEs, expect this to continue to improve. Keep in mind that the original spec for the PS3 had the Cell processor doing the GPU duties as well. SPEs are very efficient at the type of calculations that a GPU would typically be doing.

Lastly, realize that the PS3 is starting to hold its own even on multiplatform titles (a public sign that third parties are coming to grips with coding on the PS3 and using the SPEs) while some of the 1st/2nd party titles are looking amazing even when compared to the best shown on the 360... as developers continue to gain skills, we can expect the "effective" general computing and graphical computing aspects of the PS3 to increase... by many accounts, the 360's relative familiarity for modern programmers would tend to indicate they're already pushing the hardware much closer to its potential than the admittedly more foreign PS3 which thrives mainly when it's parallel computing aspects are leveraged.

What I'm getting at there is people are saying the 360 has better games and that can definitely be countered over time... as of right now, the difference between a high-end 360 game and a high-end PS3 game is not very different at all... over time, as developers can harness the PS3's resources, I'm confident we'll see the PS3 pull away in terms of sheer abilities in terms of what it can pull off in-game both computationally and graphically... the same can't be said for the 360.

I've long said the Wii will peak first, the 360 2nd, the PS3 third... there will be a time when heads turn to see the PS3 for what it should've been at launch... a powerhouse. Sony's been directly involved with many of the hurdles they're dealing with by either doing the wrong thing or by doing nothing, but I think they'll recover in '08 to a VERY large degree... it's too early to say now, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see Sony catch MS by Holiday '08. When you look at the timeline, the performance of the PS3 and 360 aren't too terribly dissimilar. I didn't get a 360 the entire first year because it was uncompelling to me... but since I got mine, things have really ramped up for it.

Wow, how'd I miss this thread... we've discussed this very topic over at the GamerCast Network forums a couple times and there are some things that need to be considered...

Yeah, most people "in the know" clearly admit the PS3 has more computational power. Period. The Cell and it's SPEs when properly utilized can run circles around a system like the 360 even with it's three cores. For some types of processing this difference is more pronounced than others.

Some of you have mentioned how the GPU on the 360 is more powerful than the GPU on the PS3 and give the very barebones description of that situation, yes, it's true. But what isn't clear is that the way the Cell + SPEs work, some of the workload that traditionally would be done via the GPU can be done by one (or more) of the SPEs and simply fed to the GPU. When you look at it that way, the benefits of the 360's GPU are countered and once people come to grips with the techniques and true power of the SPEs, expect this to continue to improve. Keep in mind that the original spec for the PS3 had the Cell processor doing the GPU duties as well. SPEs are very efficient at the type of calculations that a GPU would typically be doing.

Lastly, realize that the PS3 is starting to hold its own even on multiplatform titles (a public sign that third parties are coming to grips with coding on the PS3 and using the SPEs) while some of the 1st/2nd party titles are looking amazing even when compared to the best shown on the 360... as developers continue to gain skills, we can expect the "effective" general computing and graphical computing aspects of the PS3 to increase... by many accounts, the 360's relative familiarity for modern programmers would tend to indicate they're already pushing the hardware much closer to its potential than the admittedly more foreign PS3 which thrives mainly when it's parallel computing aspects are leveraged.

What I'm getting at there is people are saying the 360 has better games and that can definitely be countered over time... as of right now, the difference between a high-end 360 game and a high-end PS3 game is not very different at all... over time, as developers can harness the PS3's resources, I'm confident we'll see the PS3 pull away in terms of sheer abilities in terms of what it can pull off in-game both computationally and graphically... the same can't be said for the 360.

I've long said the Wii will peak first, the 360 2nd, the PS3 third... there will be a time when heads turn to see the PS3 for what it should've been at launch... a powerhouse. Sony's been directly involved with many of the hurdles they're dealing with by either doing the wrong thing or by doing nothing, but I think they'll recover in '08 to a VERY large degree... it's too early to say now, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see Sony catch MS by Holiday '08. When you look at the timeline, the performance of the PS3 and 360 aren't too terribly dissimilar. I didn't get a 360 the entire first year because it was uncompelling to me... but since I got mine, things have really ramped up for it.

Damn thoughtful of you to come out and put it in terms they could understand. I knew it had the capability to be a lot more powerful then the 360 I just didn't know all the technical terms to defend my argument. Major props to you and thank you for elaborating for us. Bottom line like he said is that the Ps3 is more powerful... though it isn't taking nearly full advantage of that power yet, and new to me like he also said (don't know why I didn't think of it.) the 360 is closer to it's peek as of now then the Ps3.

baset on mi knowlage:
'power' kan mean more then just who kan fit more objects on teh screen.
ps3: better grafix
360: much better online suport, bigger hard drive, emulation software, windows vista integration, and better gamez
so does power mean looks better or funner?

baset on mi knowlage:
'power' kan mean more then just who kan fit more objects on teh screen.
ps3: better grafix
360: much better online suport, bigger hard drive, emulation software, windows vista integration, and better gamez
so does power mean looks better or funner?

ho-ho-ho. Just wait until Lono finds this post.

baset on mi knowlage:
'power' kan mean more then just who kan fit more objects on teh screen.
ps3: better grafix
360: much better online suport, bigger hard drive, emulation software, windows vista integration, and better gamez
so does power mean looks better or funner?


Hey welcome back... glad to see nothing's changed. See you in... okay, never.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/rothbart_photos/interweb_memes/EmerilBan.jpg

For those curious why Sniper68 got banned, it's related to much more than this post so please don't think it was because of him speaking poorly of the PS3 or anything petty like that. Trust me, he was here to be disruptive, not to contribute anything remotely positive to our community.

His spelling would have been reason enough ;)

The picture is cool though. I bet you have been waiting a long time to use it, aren't you?

I bet you have been waiting a long time to use it, aren't you?


Occasionally... I'd like to use it more often than I do, yeah... I draw the line where one person's participation causes multiple other people to not participate though... that's not the way to grow a community.

yeah the ps3 is teh bettah than teh xblockx, and heres why:

Its not from MS!
Twice the power
Hard Drive(which means that the developers have not to worry about the a crappy core version without one)
Blue Ray
No RROD!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!
Free online play(ok its not as good as live, BUT ITS FREEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!)
MGS, FFS, GT5, Killzone 3, Heavenly Sword , Assasins Creed, Driver 5, Afrika, Tekken 6.
feeeew! teh ps3 is bettah!

Twice the power

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Wow, how'd I miss this thread... we've discussed this very topic over at the GamerCast Network forums a couple times and there are some things that need to be considered...

Yeah, most people "in the know" clearly admit the PS3 has more computational power. Period. The Cell and it's SPEs when properly utilized can run circles around a system like the 360 even with it's three cores. For some types of processing this difference is more pronounced than others.

Some of you have mentioned how the GPU on the 360 is more powerful than the GPU on the PS3 and give the very barebones description of that situation, yes, it's true. But what isn't clear is that the way the Cell + SPEs work, some of the workload that traditionally would be done via the GPU can be done by one (or more) of the SPEs and simply fed to the GPU. When you look at it that way, the benefits of the 360's GPU are countered and once people come to grips with the techniques and true power of the SPEs, expect this to continue to improve. Keep in mind that the original spec for the PS3 had the Cell processor doing the GPU duties as well. SPEs are very efficient at the type of calculations that a GPU would typically be doing.

Lastly, realize that the PS3 is starting to hold its own even on multiplatform titles (a public sign that third parties are coming to grips with coding on the PS3 and using the SPEs) while some of the 1st/2nd party titles are looking amazing even when compared to the best shown on the 360... as developers continue to gain skills, we can expect the "effective" general computing and graphical computing aspects of the PS3 to increase... by many accounts, the 360's relative familiarity for modern programmers would tend to indicate they're already pushing the hardware much closer to its potential than the admittedly more foreign PS3 which thrives mainly when it's parallel computing aspects are leveraged.

What I'm getting at there is people are saying the 360 has better games and that can definitely be countered over time... as of right now, the difference between a high-end 360 game and a high-end PS3 game is not very different at all... over time, as developers can harness the PS3's resources, I'm confident we'll see the PS3 pull away in terms of sheer abilities in terms of what it can pull off in-game both computationally and graphically... the same can't be said for the 360.

I've long said the Wii will peak first, the 360 2nd, the PS3 third... there will be a time when heads turn to see the PS3 for what it should've been at launch... a powerhouse. Sony's been directly involved with many of the hurdles they're dealing with by either doing the wrong thing or by doing nothing, but I think they'll recover in '08 to a VERY large degree... it's too early to say now, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see Sony catch MS by Holiday '08. When you look at the timeline, the performance of the PS3 and 360 aren't too terribly dissimilar. I didn't get a 360 the entire first year because it was uncompelling to me... but since I got mine, things have really ramped up for it.

I think you're just BSing your way in advanced technical terms, and it's all really a lie :D. (jk)

Seriously though, I think the 360's technical design was a little smarter in that it's supposedly easier to develop for, and at least a couple of developers have said that the 360 is easier to develop for (and possibly more agree but won't say it publicly) although the PS3 does have more raw power then the 360. As you said, the PS3 will most likely peak last, but obtain a higher graphical quality level then the 360.

Also, see this article (http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/?spage=1) for a very detailed look at the processing power of both the 360 and the PS3.

yeah the ps3 is teh bettah than teh xblockx, and heres why:

Its not from MS!
Twice the power
Hard Drive(which means that the developers have not to worry about the a crappy core version without one)
Blue Ray
No RROD!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!
Free online play(ok its not as good as live, BUT ITS FREEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!)
MGS, FFS, GT5, Killzone 3, Heavenly Sword , Assasins Creed, Driver 5, Afrika, Tekken 6.
feeeew! teh ps3 is bettah!

Please tell me that post was a joke.

ps3 doesn't really have any games, like in the song, and I quote

"we didn't like killzone 1, what made you think we want it's bastard son."

maybe if they came out with a revolutionary game more people would pick up ps3's.

ps3 doesn't really have any games,

Okay, by using the direct context of what you just said, you are completely and utterly wrong. If you insert a "killer" into that sentence, then yes, you're kinda sorta right. Give the PS3 another year though, and things will be different (*cough* MGS4, R&C*cough*).

R&C is only coming out this month...

Anyways... Insomniac said they got their engline working perfectly fine and without much trouble on the PS3, and that the PS3's architecture is somewhat similar to the PS2's, making it fimiliar...

I thought R&C was coming out next year, lol...

I know the PS3 isn't necessarily "insanely difficult" to program on, but it is supposedly harder then with the 360.

What was that last machine everybody complained about being difficult to program on... oh yeah... the Playstation 2. What a disaster that turned out to be after the initial batch of "blah" titles. Yeah, Sony=Doomed confirmed. ;)

Is PS3 the most powerful?

I like to think of the old saying, "if a tree falls and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound?"

Think about it...

I like to think that that tree does make a sound.