hear are some examples

1.call of duty 4
2.ninja gaiden dragon sword
3.assasins creed altiar's chronicles
4.gutair hero

No. Plus Ninja gaiden DS is awesome.

i was just using that as a example
i never said it was a bad game

i was just using that as a example
i never said it was a bad game

I know I was saying that as an example too. If Ninja Gaiden is great on DS then it helps the franchise because more gamers are able to play it which in turn might get a gamer interested in playing the home console version.

yes you are right i was asking the poeple
i know that it is a really good game i have seen reviews for it and it got really high scores
it was just one i could think of for an example

I heard CoD 4 for the DS wasn't bad, so wasn't Assasins creed. GH is the one we don't know about yet because it isn't out yet

the power of the mini-mousepad (touchscreen)... all for it more often then not

Nah, the DS incarnations of franchises seem to be doing quite well. While CoD4 still doesn't control as well as many would like, it's one of the top choices for FPS games on the system. Ninja Gaiden has been getting good reviews across the boards.
As long as the developer puts the time and energy into their game, there's next to no chance of ruining their franchise.

No, there are a lot of people who have a DS and it will help the sales when people can play it on the go.

I have COD4 for the DS and i enjoyed it. Well it was only like a 2 hour campaign.
Ninja Gaiden did get alot of good reviews. Gampro gave it a 4/5 Gametrailers 8.8/10
When assasin's creed was anounced for the DS i thought it was a joke. When i looked at some of the screen shots it didnt look good at all.
As for gutair hero it looks cool and creative, but i dont think it is going to work. Also it will be pricy for a DS game.

i have no problem with popular games being ported to the DS, i just think people should be aware that they will mostlikly be hyped and they should read some reviews before buying.

I can tell that you're against the DS, and haven't even read reviews of (much less played) these games to know if they're even good.

Is there a word for this, other than "hater"? It would have to be the opposite of "fanboy"...

I can tell that you're against the DS, and haven't even read reviews of (much less played) these games to know if they're even good.

Is there a word for this, other than "hater"? It would have to be the opposite of "fanboy"...
Troll maybe?

Actually ploogle, I happen to have DS and a good 15 games for it.
I don't really appreciate you telling me if I dont really know anything about the DS. I have had a DS for a good 3 years now. I also have read and seen reviews for DS games from Gamepro and Gametrailers. So I would like you to please be quiet on how i am (so you say) "hater of the DS."

Anyone who posted I just want you to know what is was an opinion and stop saying that I dont know anything or a "hater". This was never ment to upseat anyone.

The companies are kind of ruining their franchises. Some of the games suck while others don't. It's pretty hard to tell which are the bad games before they come out though. Another way companies are ruining themselves is by making games based off of movies (most suck but not all). Harry potter ds?!?! what the @#$@ were they thinking?

Actually ploogle, I happen to have DS and a good 15 games for it.
I don't really appreciate you telling me if I dont really know anything about the DS. I have had a DS for a good 3 years now. I also have read and seen reviews for DS games from Gamepro and Gametrailers. So I would like you to please be quiet on how i am (so you say) "hater of the DS."

Anyone who posted I just want you to know what is was an opinion and stop saying that I dont know anything or a "hater". This was never ment to upseat anyone.

:lipssealed: Sorry, but that's what your post sounded like...in the future you might want to also say how you like the DS, but there are some crap games instead of just talking about the bad.

I think that The DS is one of the best handheld system cuz u can go on wi-fi on certin games

I do beleive that for systems like the wii and ds that if you're not going to put effort into it, it will just hurt your brand.

If you do, it can be very rewarding.

some games are decent enough to enjoy when they are switched from 360etc. which can really help a company. But others are total jokes and net a negative profit.

The companies that make great games on the PS3 and 360, are then ruining some of their built up credibility by making the games available to the DS as well. No multiplatform game will work well on the DS. They all were at most OK.

It's just a way to extend the series to a new audiance (I've seen 35 year old Soccer Mom's with DS's playing games like Contra). If it makes the pennies to have the next game's production value better, so be it.

The companies that make great games on the PS3 and 360, are then ruining some of their built up credibility by making the games available to the DS as well. No multiplatform game will work well on the DS. They all were at most OK.

Wrong... you can always bring an idea across. But you cant be lazy about how you do it. THATS when they ruin credibility. (Unless you mean UbiSoft who has had zero for any PC gamer for a while now.... they can blame using a copy protection known to KILL DISC DRIVES for that)

no, some ppl cant afford consoles and theyre just trying to expand their game to new audiences

nope i liked assassins creed and ninja gaiden

If you start saying that 360 and PS3 games shouldn't be ported to the handhelds because they don't have the power to do the games justice, you're saying that everyone should go out and buy a high spec PC, because they're the most powerful gaming platform. Everything else is, by that defenition, an inferior copy.

If the games concept is good, why shouldn't it be ported to other (arguably more numerous) hardware? These guys are in it to make a profit after all. If you can sell a few more units of game X because it has a name on it why not? It doesn't automatically make the game bad.

I think as long as the developers spend time on the game to make sure it works well, then no, its not destroying the franchise. It is only when they spend all of 30 minutes making a game that they can lose credibility.

Meh.

The DS is a popular handheld, and is blowing away console sales. Not to mention CoD and Ninja Gaiden are really good games. Mainly I think it depends on how the company approaches it. Ubisoft whored Assassins Creed out to a dumpy developer, and its yet to be seen how GH will come out. But companies like Team Ninja personally attacked the DS field, rather than turn over their property to someone else. CoD happened to get put into good hands, and its a rather fun game. It all counts on the determination of the company to 'not ruin' their franchise, or get some money out of it.

No becasue alot of games that come out on the ds are meant to be a waterd down version or a simple handheld version where if you only have ten to fifteen minutes to play you don't have to be sitting infront of a tv the whole time.

Plus if you've already played it on the consoles, then you don't have to buy it on the ds.

They are if they scale it down so it's crap. Look at what they screwed up on there. They screwed CoD up by not adding 8 player online multiplayer, they screwed up Brothers In Arms by forgetting tactics and no online co-op and that campaign was short and i beat it on all 3 difficulties in 3 days but if they don't (which isn't very often) it can make a great game.

The DS is a popular handheld, and is blowing away console sales. Not to mention CoD and Ninja Gaiden are really good games. Mainly I think it depends on how the company approaches it. Ubisoft whored Assassins Creed out to a dumpy developer, and its yet to be seen how GH will come out. But companies like Team Ninja personally attacked the DS field, rather than turn over their property to someone else. CoD happened to get put into good hands, and its a rather fun game. It all counts on the determination of the company to 'not ruin' their franchise, or get some money out of it.

QFT

Thank you

They aren't ruining it, just, watering it down.

If you start saying that 360 and PS3 games shouldn't be ported to the handhelds because they don't have the power to do the games justice, you're saying that everyone should go out and buy a high spec PC, because they're the most powerful gaming platform. Everything else is, by that defenition, an inferior copy.

PC gaming on next gen games requires a SUPED UP PC! Plus, there have been technical drawbacks and other problems with PC gaming EVEN WITH a suped up PC! For instance, there have been THOUSANDS of reports of shuddering. PC gaming iis still new and there are still bugs to work out. (PopTragdor...may I?) *nods*
Thank you and good night!

No, i don't think so.

I SAID GOOD DAY SIR!!!
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PC gaming on next gen games requires a SUPED UP PC! Plus, there have been technical drawbacks and other problems with PC gaming EVEN WITH a suped up PC! For instance, there have been THOUSANDS of reports of shuddering. PC gaming iis still new and there are still bugs to work out. (PopTragdor...may I?) *nods*
Thank you and good night!

Shuttering? Really? Cause Ive yet to see it.... And Ive been a PC gamer for YEARS... like started in 1988 years. (Yeah, I can see that being REAL new)

Allthough those four games were all terrible (except ninja gaiden), they didn't effect the sales of their big brothers in any shape or form, and only bought in more revenue for the companies that make them.

I just wonder what will happen when they release Guitar Hero for it :sad:

I don't mind it if the game was designed for it, and it's the marquee title of the franchise. It's when companies try to cash in with the franchise name that I simply disregard them. Case in point, I'll be picking up Final Fantasy IV DS when it comes out, and probably Dragon Quest IX. But I'll be staying far away from spin-offs of Final Fantasy XII and XIII on the DS.