View Full Version : BioShock is AMAZING!


Yousty
08-17-2007, 11:57 AM
I was able to get ahold of a copy two days ago (Thank you Toys 'r' Us for not knowing when to release games:)) and all I have to say is this definitely has the potential to be game of the year and that is saying A LOT considering how many amazing titles are coming out. I have a large HDTV and nice surround sound and it is just an amazing, enthralling, scary in a good way experience. I was able to put in about 6 hours of edge-of my-seat play last night. I'm not going to ruin anything but I will say that the telekinesis ability works absolutely beautifully, even better than HL2's gravity gun. It sucks that it uses up your ability meter though cuz it's so damn fun just to play around with. Also a warning, the retail version is a little different than the demo, i.e. things are in different places.

If you own a 360, GO GET THIS GAME TUESDAY!

CaptainDDL
08-17-2007, 12:38 PM
If it's anything like the demo, I'm really looking forward to it. ;)

Yousty
08-17-2007, 12:50 PM
If it's anything like the demo, I'm really looking forward to it. ;)

It is so much better than the demo. It has such an engrossing story line. The best part is trying to find all of the tape recorders which gives you pieces to the puzzle of the overall story. I just don't have words for how well done this game is. It deserves all of the amazing review scores and praise it has been getting.

Kalroy
08-17-2007, 03:24 PM
I was able to get ahold of a copy two days ago (Thank you Toys 'r' Us for not knowing when to release games:)) .....



Ooooooh!
I hate you.

<<Dagger eyes!!!>>


Edit: I called my Toy R Us when I first read the early relase story. All ready to make the 120 mile round trip, and call in sick for work Thursday. They hadn't even gotten their shipment in. Aaaarrrgh. Saved a day of sick leave though. Now I get to use it next week. :)

Lono_Lives
08-17-2007, 03:28 PM
Yousty, I hate you too...

BTW there's a great review from IGN. Yeah I know they notoriously inflate their reveiws, but I liked this one.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/813/813214p3.html

Yousty
08-17-2007, 06:09 PM
Yousty, I hate you too...

BTW there's a great review from IGN. Yeah I know they notoriously inflate their reveiws, but I liked this one.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/813/813214p3.html

Yeah, I watched that one. I actually like IGN quite a bit and that's why I've paid the $20 a year for 4 years now to be an Insider. To me it is way better than paying $20 a year for a magazine subscription because IGN always has the latest news and millions of videos and screenshots. I've always felt that their reviews are pretty accurate and I love their HD videos.

And the 9.7 is well-deserved by this game. which is the highest rated 360 game on IGN now.

darkwrld
08-18-2007, 02:27 PM
Yea i found the demo rather impressive =D

firestormgamer
08-20-2007, 10:36 AM
i totally agree, Bioshock is going to rock your face off, i realize that it has most likely come out in America when i post this, but here in Australia it still hasn't, but we still have a week to wait, but luckily my work has a promo copy that technically wasn't supposed to be set up until release date (the 28th) but we set it up out the back, and i was just blown away

V3NOM
08-21-2007, 11:14 AM
I'm picking it up later today. I'll post again with my revised impressions when I've played the real thing.

CharlieBlix
08-22-2007, 02:21 AM
I played it all day today... and it is kick ass... and very much an edge of your seat kind of game.

Only one problem.... and I had this problem with the demo as well.... why the hell would you inject yourself with a big bottle of drugs without knowing what the hell it was?... I mean come on... you just walk right up and put the needle in your arm... why?

but yeah.. thats my only problem... fun times.

duffydirect
08-22-2007, 08:37 AM
I played it all day today... and it is kick ass... and very much an edge of your seat kind of game.

Only one problem.... and I had this problem with the demo as well.... why the hell would you inject yourself with a big bottle of drugs without knowing what the hell it was?... I mean come on... you just walk right up and put the needle in your arm... why?

but yeah.. thats my only problem... fun times.

i don't really understand why the Irish guy's name is Atlas, either. i mean, i know micks live their whole lives on huge ego trips, but usually they're named after their dad, or their uncle, or their grandpa and name themselves the same bloody 3 names again and again and again...

btw, never say "this holiday sucks..." to your friend at a st. patrick's day parade in dublin.

Dassault
08-26-2007, 04:48 PM
Agreed, this game is just plain awesome. The gameplay, the story, the graphics, the art... everything just comes together. I really hope this game sells well, because it would be a great wakeup call to the industry.

Lono_Lives
08-26-2007, 06:34 PM
i don't really understand why the Irish guy's name is Atlas, either.

I think its an Ann Rand thing.

toxicfish88
08-26-2007, 09:59 PM
I got mine 4 days ago and i been playing non stop :) i played the demo and i was like :eek: its greatness.

Thanks Toxicfish88

VinDali
08-27-2007, 03:32 AM
I got mine Friday. I've played a little bit - I'm at the part where you 1st see the Big Daddy. I spent most of the weekend preparing for my Fantasy Football Draft that was tonight so I did not play much.
Tomorrow I dive in.

One of my friends cannot stop gushing about how good this game is. And there's one of my friends that already finished it earlier tonight.

CaptainDDL
08-27-2007, 07:39 AM
I'm at the level right after you beat your first Big Daddy, to find out that you're going to have to deal with 3 little sisters, probably dealing with 3 Big Daddys...I was like "to hell with this" and went to play Gears. :p

DaneWW
08-27-2007, 10:28 PM
I thought the game play and the graphics were excellent. I was totally engrossed in the game, but after I finished it in about 12 hours on Easy I was done. I could have went through again on a more difficult setting but I pretty much explored everywhere and completed the storyline with over 700 gamer score points. Although this game is excellent, I think the re-play is weak. There are no real side quests or other fun to be had, except to wander about and look at the excellent scenery or kill big daddies in new ways. My favorite was use ignite and then shoot them with the heat seeking RPG.

CharlieBlix
08-27-2007, 10:45 PM
I thought the game play and the graphics were excellent. I was totally engrossed in the game, but after I finished it in about 12 hours on Easy I was done. I could have went through again on a more difficult setting but I pretty much explored everywhere and completed the storyline with over 700 gamer score points. Although this game is excellent, I think the re-play is weak. There are no real side quests or other fun to be had, except to wander about and look at the excellent scenery or kill big daddies in new ways. My favorite was use ignite and then shoot them with the heat seeking RPG.
You do know there are two endings right?

DaneWW
08-28-2007, 12:15 AM
No I didn't know there were two ending. Let me guess, a different ending if you harvest little sisters vise save them? Too late for me to find out now, I sent my rental back today. I still hold to my original statement though. Weak re-play, unless you like to kill the same set of bad guys in different ways. Other games I think have weak replay are the campaigns of Halo 2, Prey, Call of Duty 2, and GRAW. I am not saying these are bad games or NO re-play, just weak re-play. (just my opinion)

Spudnik
08-28-2007, 12:23 AM
This game has made me want to go and read Atlas Shrugged. I like the idea behind rapture, although i don't agree with it it is still and interesting idea. From what I can tell the philosophy in this game is based on Aynn Rand's philosophy. Seems like it would be interesting. Has anyone here read it?

Sander Scamper
08-28-2007, 01:11 AM
No I didn't know there were two ending. Let me guess, a different ending if you harvest little sisters vise save them? Too late for me to find out now, I sent my rental back today. I still hold to my original statement though. Weak re-play, unless you like to kill the same set of bad guys in different ways. Other games I think have weak replay are the campaigns of Halo 2, Prey, Call of Duty 2, and GRAW. I am not saying these are bad games or NO re-play, just weak re-play. (just my opinion)

You played the game on Easy? Why? I played it on Hard and had a far more fun experience, it took just under 20 hours. There are two different PATHS through the game, multiple set pieces are handled differently, the story and how different characters change depending on how you handle the Little Sisters. For example, if you choose to save them you get a plasmid that lets you hypnotize big daddies, which can change the way the entire game is played because you're now protected by a Big Daddy. It was so cool.
Bioshock has excellent replay because it also has non-linear components. You encounter the big daddies anywhere on maps, which makes environmental ways of handling them different, the fight will always be changing. Tonics and plasmids you find are semi-randomised and changed every playthrough. You can choose different character setups like changing to become a sneaky wrench/melee fighter and set up your tonics to make you powerful in that way. The game has more replay value, certainly, than any of the games you listed above. All of those games have set pieces which are identical every playthrough. That guy will stand there looking in that direction, every time. Not so in Bioshock, the AI is dynamic and the enemies are semi-randomised for huge replay possibilities.

Sander Scamper
08-28-2007, 04:12 AM
Great start, my fourth post is an accidental doublepost...

CaptainDDL
08-28-2007, 08:11 AM
*gasp* non-working spoiler tags FTL.

Sander Scamper
08-28-2007, 11:59 AM
Ick, sorry about that.

darkwrld
08-28-2007, 12:40 PM
I liked the demo but im hoping that the whole game is as good.

senyour smoothy buns
08-28-2007, 03:28 PM
i didn't think it that good probalbe coz i suck at it so much by my bro through it was sweet
:eek::eek::eek::eek:
:eek::eek::eek::eek:
:eek::eek::eek::eek:
:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Kalroy
08-28-2007, 10:52 PM
I liked the demo but im hoping that the whole game is as good.

It is that good.

DaaX
08-28-2007, 10:58 PM
Actually , its way better.

Sander Scamper
08-29-2007, 02:05 AM
And it's just under 20 hours or so if you play it on the difficulty that's specified. (Most people here have played "A LOT of shooters", so you should all be playing on Hard).

Frawlz
08-29-2007, 10:46 AM
I really want to get this game as soon as possible. Only one problem. My XBox is hooked up to a 34 inch TV. I have a 50 HD at my exgf's house. Surround sound and all. I refuse to pick up this game with out being able to have the full experience.

Personally I don't understand why anyone would play XBox with anything less then an HDTV. I just don't get it.

Mecco
08-29-2007, 11:01 AM
Yeah i played Bioshock since the launch for the 360, amazing game, i first harvested the little sisters, and now i'm rescuing. Tbh, rescuing gives more satisfaction and awards you really good!

Frawlz
08-29-2007, 11:09 AM
Hey guys...


Seriously... I just told you all that I have yet to buy the game. Now I KNOW that telling me there are two endings ins't exactly a spoiler...


But it is the start of one. Can you guys please use **SPOILER** at the start of a post, so people like me know to skip it. It isn't fair to the rest of us.

Mecco
08-29-2007, 11:15 AM
Hey guys...


Seriously... I just told you all that I have yet to buy the game. Now I KNOW that telling me there are two endings ins't exactly a spoiler...


But it is the start of one. Can you guys please use **SPOILER** at the start of a post, so people like me know to skip it. It isn't fair to the rest of us.


I'm new here so i didn't read the whole thread.. if you don't want spoilers then its best that you don't visite this thread, because i doubt people that bought it would restrain their posts to how awesome it is. People who actually don't own the game in question (and this goes to every game thread imo) shouldn't participate in a conversation about this particular game if they don't want to hear spoilers and are planning to buy the game.

Frawlz
08-29-2007, 11:20 AM
Thats fine... but what if someone was on the fence about buying the game? People rely on normal people to review the game. I think they are more honest.

I just think out of a curtisy, to just say ***POSSIBLE SPOILER***...

Thats all I ask.

Mecco
08-29-2007, 11:25 AM
Thats fine... but what if someone was on the fence about buying the game? People rely on normal people to review the game. I think they are more honest.

I just think out of a curtisy, to just say ***POSSIBLE SPOILER***...

Thats all I ask.

Your complained has been carefully taken into consideration :p

(chill)

Frawlz
08-29-2007, 11:37 AM
Thanks dude...!

darkwrld
08-29-2007, 11:51 AM
Cool thanks ill prob get this later on *Grabs Money* XD :D

CharlieBlix
08-29-2007, 12:14 PM
It's a sad day for me. I've gotten really far in the game and now its freezing up on me... I've cleaned the disc... ive made sure its not just my 360 by playing other games... and its still freezing up.. arg!! Time to try and get Gamestop to let me get a new copy... blah... I really wanted to finish this game today damnit!

Mecco
08-29-2007, 03:23 PM
**** i forgot to mention that i had some problems with Bioshock to. I turned up my console 2 days ago and i freaked out when it seemed like my save games were partialy erased, leaving me with savegames from the 2nd 'part of town'. Turns out my latest savegames were not saved with a date of 2007 but 2005, therefor it was at the bottom of my savelist. Now if anyone can explain this to me, i would be gratefull.

Btw. at the same time my x360 clock began to trip..

Yousty
08-29-2007, 03:26 PM
**** i forgot to mention that i had some problems with Bioshock to. I turned up my console 2 days ago and i freaked out when it seemed like my save games were partialy erased, leaving me with savegames from the 2nd 'part of town'. Turns out my latest savegames were not saved with a date of 2007 but 2005, therefor it was at the bottom of my savelist. Now if anyone can explain this to me, i would be gratefull.

Btw. at the same time my x360 clock began to trip..

You could have lost power which would cause your 360's clock to reset to launch date.

VinDali
08-29-2007, 03:30 PM
Are you connected to Live all the time? Your clock is always current when you are.
If you are not, and have unplugged the console (or maybe power outage) your date and time resets to the launch date. If your later save files have an older date than early save files, your 360 says Dee Dee Dee and has problems.

Mecco
08-29-2007, 03:32 PM
You could have lost power which would cause your 360's clock to reset to launch date.

Thanks, that actually sounds propable, but, is their anything i can do about it?

^well, the game the outfit wont boot on my xbox even with 2 different copies, but i figured maybe the discs were empty. But fight night, the first time i put in the game i saw chinese symbols on my screen and could have sworn that the red ring of doom could pop up any moment, never happened tho

DaaX
08-29-2007, 07:49 PM
The Outfit? You should be happy it doesnt work....

CharlieBlix
08-30-2007, 12:12 AM
Well shit. I just got done playing my new new copy of the game and its having the same jerking gameplay problems I was having with the last disc. I told EB about it when I was at the store to get the new disc and they said a couple of people have been having this problem... what the hell! So now I have to go back up town and get my 3rd copy of the game. I'm starting to think that something might be wrong with the save file or something because its only doing this to bioshock and not any of my other games.... weird stuff.

Mecco
08-30-2007, 09:22 AM
The Outfit? You should be happy it doesnt work....

Alot of people say the outfit suck, but still i bought it for 30 dollars and i was really hoping to play it :(:mad:

DaaX
08-30-2007, 11:11 AM
Seriously you should just return it and get a refund or exchange it for an other game. I got the game for free with my 360 and couldnt play for more than 2 levels before I wanted to just throw the game into a bottomless pit.

I suggest getting an old Xbox title that is worth around 30$ instead of playing that horrible game.

xioxenna
09-07-2007, 10:14 PM
well, i've ranted about the pc version enough, so time to spam here too... bioshock is NOT amazing, it is possibly one of the worst games on tany platform atm, bar graphics.

DO NOT BUY THIS GAME

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there is 5 enemies,
1 thugs
2 spiders
3 hudini's
4 turrets
5 daddies

you cant count the minute variations between,

>now correct me if i'm wrong, the game is completely linear with no replay value.
>there's two endings, both are unsatisfying
>the last boss can be beaten in three minutes. (normal diff)
>character movement feels floaty, and interacts poorly with environment, there is no realism here (played on full graphics, corrrect resolution)
>there's no tactics to be employed. walk in, electrobolt the camera's, autohack it, beesting the enemy, hide. either that, or run round in circles with the 4shot shotgun, whoop-de-doo.
>the hacking is repetitive, the same from the first to the last, everything hacks the same, from a safe to a camera, to a turret. could they not have varied it slightly to stop me from getting p*ssed off and stocking up on autohacks.

storyline is good, nice twists/backgrounds, but there's no way to alter it.
water effects are great, but if you touch it slightly, you're blinded for ~8 seconds.

it looks good, but plays bad, it's all over before it's started. and there's no satisfaction at the end. and due to how repetitive the game is, there's no way you'd ever bother to find the second ending.

you might think the weapons are unique? wtf? casting fire? casting ice? casting electric? ... no wait i suppose you're right, no one's ever come up with anything that ingenious, how did we miss these kick ass ideas in other multi-platinum games such as the final fantasy series, WoW, hmm xmen?

you might think the character optimisation is unique - One simple answer to this...A little game called... Deus ex,
& Deus EX PWNS this game, forever and a day, there's hundreds of games which offer armour stats, and character ehancement, admittedly, most are rpg's, but seriously, how hard would it have been to give us a little more than "Electrobolt level 3" try, electro gloves, elecric resistance, power consumption... etc etc, kitting out your body aswell as your mind,
plus there's no detriment at all, to having bee's flow through your veins. or your hand continously burnt then frozen, then electrocuted, then covered in bee's again. wtf?

the final (possibly most deadly) weapon in the game's a f*ckn crossbow. yeah, cause that's gonna do equivalent damage to a shotgun alright.

Where the hell was the damn city. you seen it as you were comin in, where was a single civillian in the game, where was there one person (apart from that scientist lady/little sisters) who didnt try and attack you, where was civilisation of any kind. was that the one guy who greeted you at the start getting out of your diving bell, and god killed by a spider?

come to think of it, where was a level with a greater expanse of view than aprox 45meters. this was a small, liner game.

1st level, plane crashes through a glass walkway, 40 leagues under the sea. glass cracks water pours in. 40 mins later, water pours in, 1hour 40mins later, water pours in, water level not rising. seriously, ten seconds into the game, would it hurt to have the environment collapsing, a cutscene if neccissary? you're not gonna mind dying at that point for being slow, you're ten seconds into it.

the game's over in a day, if you played it. one day you can finish this game, and never want to play it again, there's not enough to do/see.

seriously, this game was made by cheif executives of big companys looking for the $$$ , we need a few powers to upgrade, heart rendering choices which determine good/bad endings. a plot twist, and a hacking system, a few guns.

two stars, avoid at all costs, you'll feel massively hard done by

CharlieBlix
09-07-2007, 11:22 PM
umm.. yeah... you're a moron... one star for you.

DRE
09-07-2007, 11:47 PM
blah blah blah

I wish I had the power to change your title to something douchebaggy.

Volkov
09-08-2007, 12:39 AM
I actually agree with him to an extent. I never really got bored in the game, but never felt satisfyed when I accomplished something.

Also, he's right about having no view of the city and no civilians. Although, with all the splicers running around, that might have been difficult to implement.

Lono_Lives
09-08-2007, 01:07 AM
well, i've ranted about the pc version enough, so time to spam here too... bioshock is NOT amazing, it is possibly one of the worst games on tany platform atm, bar graphics.

DO NOT BUY THIS GAME

_->>(-(-SPOILERS RIDDLE THIS POST-)-)<<-_
>->>(-(-SPOILERS RIDDLE THIS POST-)-)<<-<
_->>(-(-SPOILERS RIDDLE THIS POST-)-)<<-_


there is 5 enemies,
1 thugs
2 spiders
3 hudini's
4 turrets
5 daddies

you cant count the minute variations between,

>now correct me if i'm wrong, the game is completely linear with no replay value.
>there's two endings, both are unsatisfying
>the last boss can be beaten in three minutes. (normal diff)
>character movement feels floaty, and interacts poorly with environment, there is no realism here (played on full graphics, corrrect resolution)
>there's no tactics to be employed. walk in, electrobolt the camera's, autohack it, beesting the enemy, hide. either that, or run round in circles with the 4shot shotgun, whoop-de-doo.
>the hacking is repetitive, the same from the first to the last, everything hacks the same, from a safe to a camera, to a turret. could they not have varied it slightly to stop me from getting p*ssed off and stocking up on autohacks.

storyline is good, nice twists/backgrounds, but there's no way to alter it.
water effects are great, but if you touch it slightly, you're blinded for ~8 seconds.

it looks good, but plays bad, it's all over before it's started. and there's no satisfaction at the end. and due to how repetitive the game is, there's no way you'd ever bother to find the second ending.

you might think the weapons are unique? wtf? casting fire? casting ice? casting electric? ... no wait i suppose you're right, no one's ever come up with anything that ingenious, how did we miss these kick ass ideas in other multi-platinum games such as the final fantasy series, WoW, hmm xmen?

you might think the character optimisation is unique - One simple answer to this...A little game called... Deus ex,
& Deus EX PWNS this game, forever and a day, there's hundreds of games which offer armour stats, and character ehancement, admittedly, most are rpg's, but seriously, how hard would it have been to give us a little more than "Electrobolt level 3" try, electro gloves, elecric resistance, power consumption... etc etc, kitting out your body aswell as your mind,
plus there's no detriment at all, to having bee's flow through your veins. or your hand continously burnt then frozen, then electrocuted, then covered in bee's again. wtf?

the final (possibly most deadly) weapon in the game's a f*ckn crossbow. yeah, cause that's gonna do equivalent damage to a shotgun alright.

Where the hell was the damn city. you seen it as you were comin in, where was a single civillian in the game, where was there one person (apart from that scientist lady/little sisters) who didnt try and attack you, where was civilisation of any kind. was that the one guy who greeted you at the start getting out of your diving bell, and god killed by a spider?

come to think of it, where was a level with a greater expanse of view than aprox 45meters. this was a small, liner game.

1st level, plane crashes through a glass walkway, 40 leagues under the sea. glass cracks water pours in. 40 mins later, water pours in, 1hour 40mins later, water pours in, water level not rising. seriously, ten seconds into the game, would it hurt to have the environment collapsing, a cutscene if neccissary? you're not gonna mind dying at that point for being slow, you're ten seconds into it.

the game's over in a day, if you played it. one day you can finish this game, and never want to play it again, there's not enough to do/see.

seriously, this game was made by cheif executives of big companys looking for the $$$ , we need a few powers to upgrade, heart rendering choices which determine good/bad endings. a plot twist, and a hacking system, a few guns.

two stars, avoid at all costs, you'll feel massively hard done by

there's a lot of truth to the post. Although there are three endings. The problem with the post is the poster. The poster obviously has no imagination. If all you do is the same attacks on the baddies then you won't have fun. You've got to mix and match your tactics. Although by the end, I was getting bored with killing the same people over and over. I ended up just freezing them and hitting them with my suped up wrench.

The greatness in the game is in the story. You have to search it out in the game. I loved the story and would recommend this game to anyone that likes first person shooters.

BTW Deus Ex would not own this game. Give me a damn break, that game looks like my left foot and smells even worse. Yeah, for its time, it may have been good, but come on dude...It's been what??? ten years. Let it go. just let it go dude.

Just let it go.

Oh and BTW, don't buy Bioshock. Rent it. for two weeks. Although you'll probably beat it in three or four marathon gaming sessions.

DRE
09-08-2007, 03:18 AM
This game shines because of the art style and especially the voice acting/music. Basically the atmosphere is it's greatest achievement.

I can understand his point about the gameplay feeling repetitive after a certain point, but it's not horrible gameplay by any means. Sure the elemental powers concept has been done before in games, but this game does it quite well. WTF is wrong with using a tried and true formula if it fits into the storyline/gameplay well? Not everyone can reinvent the wheel you know.

Although I purchased it, I can easily say that this game is the ultimate rental. The main thing that hurts it is the lack of multiplayer, so there isn't a huge amount of replay value. Overall, it's still excellent. That guy is a xxxxxxxxx.

Lono_Lives
09-08-2007, 03:26 AM
lets keep it civil please!

Tk
09-08-2007, 04:18 AM
It's a good game and I did enjoy playing it.
However, I do think it's a bit overhyped.
Even with the current reviews out there.

The game has great potential, but I feel they just didn't try hard enough in the end.

"Hacking" gets a bit tedious around halfway through.
There are just so many things to hack, it breaks the action way too often.
Not to mention the bloody research...
The first few times it's fun, but taking 1000 photographs gets annoying.
These things basically cut the replay value in half for me...

The ending sequence was short, disappointing and rather cliché.
I was like "wha... that it?! o.O"

I might play it once more on the new machine for a better graphical experience,
but beyond that, it's prolly going to get pretty dusty...


It's not really the hardcore pc gamer's choice, I think this is really for the 360 folks to play.
Because lets face it, even though it's great, Gears of War is gettin old now :p


Makes me wish I had waited for the p****ed version tbh :cool:



PS:
With all the overhyped reviews out there, I think a review like xioxenna's is just what we need.

CharlieBlix
09-08-2007, 08:23 AM
I've never been a fan of hating something just because others like it. It's like them kids in high school that love a band till the band breaks into the big time and become "sell outs".

If there were no reviews out there saying how hot this time was no one would be bitching about a lot of small things. This game kept me playing to the end and that takes a lot... in fact so far not a single xbox game has done that for me but this one.

I just don't believe in being pissy about a game just to for the sake of it.

TheSmokingManX
09-08-2007, 08:35 AM
SPOILERSSSSSS Nobody likes spoilers, but you know what -- you got 'em.


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I'll address xioxenna's post point-by-point.

>now correct me if i'm wrong, the game is completely linear with no replay value.

There certainly is replay value; choosing to harvest or not harvest little sisters can have a dramatic impact on the way you play the game, and all of the other choices you can (and things to find along the way) allow for quite a lot of variations in ways you could play through the game.

>there's two endings, both are unsatisfying

I agree that the endings are fairly bad in that there's such a start juxtaposition between the two. You're Jesus or Hitler, essentially. Very stupid.

>the last boss can be beaten in three minutes. (normal diff)

Play on a harder difficulty if you're looking for a challenge.

>character movement feels floaty, and interacts poorly with environment, there is no realism here (played on full graphics, corrrect resolution)

I disagree, and you can feel free to come back and argue this point, but I suppose it comes down to how you personally feel about the game. Controls were tight and worked well on both systems (although I primarily played on 360), and I don't see what your issue is with environmental interaction, as between the telekinesis plasmid and your ability to walk into things and knock them around, the world didn't feel as static as many FPSs do.

>there's no tactics to be employed. walk in, electrobolt the camera's, autohack it, beesting the enemy, hide. either that, or run round in circles with the 4shot shotgun, whoop-de-doo.

Well, there are two tactics you just suggested. You could also freeze the camera, destroy it, lay down a trap with the crossbow or proximity grenades and wait for enemies to walk into them. That's just one different approach you can take. Your decision to do the same thing over and over isn't the game's fault. The game should be praised for not forcing you to use all of your powers just for the sake of doing so, like in so many other games.

>the hacking is repetitive, the same from the first to the last, everything hacks the same, from a safe to a camera, to a turret. could they not have varied it slightly to stop me from getting p*ssed off and stocking up on autohacks.

You're right, hacking was repetitive and boring. A plasmid to let you auto-hack would have been nice.

storyline is good, nice twists/backgrounds, but there's no way to alter it.

You can't really fault a game for deciding to go the route of telling a direct narrative that you don't ultimately impact.

water effects are great, but if you touch it slightly, you're blinded for ~8 seconds.

Not quite sure what you're referring to here, as I don't remember ever being blinded by the water.

it looks good, but plays bad, it's all over before it's started. and there's no satisfaction at the end. and due to how repetitive the game is, there's no way you'd ever bother to find the second ending.

As I pointed out above, the way you played seems to be the reason why the game is so repetitive. I know I'm looking forward to playing through the game again with a completely different strategy to save all the little sisters.

you might think the weapons are unique? wtf? casting fire? casting ice? casting electric? ... no wait i suppose you're right, no one's ever come up with anything that ingenious, how did we miss these kick ass ideas in other multi-platinum games such as the final fantasy series, WoW, hmm xmen?

How about the swarm of bees, cyclone and security bullseye, for plasmids? Or the different types of ammunition for your weapons? The latter might not be the most original concept ever, but the type of ammunition you choose is actually relevant, unlike other games that give you the choice.

you might think the character optimisation is unique - One simple answer to this...A little game called... Deus ex,
& Deus EX PWNS this game, forever and a day, there's hundreds of games which offer armour stats, and character ehancement, admittedly, most are rpg's, but seriously, how hard would it have been to give us a little more than "Electrobolt level 3" try, electro gloves, elecric resistance, power consumption... etc etc, kitting out your body aswell as your mind,

So a game is worthless if it's not as good as Deus Ex? That's your own opinion, and while Deus Ex might have done the variation better, I enjoyed the story and immersion in BioShock a whole lot more.

plus there's no detriment at all, to having bee's flow through your veins. or your hand continously burnt then frozen, then electrocuted, then covered in bee's again. wtf?

Your point? That's why it's fictional, it doesn't have to abide by real-world standards.

the final (possibly most deadly) weapon in the game's a f*ckn crossbow. yeah, cause that's gonna do equivalent damage to a shotgun alright.

It's a good long distance weapon, and you can set traps with it for times when enemies venture close. Sorry it wasn't a BFG.

Where the hell was the damn city. you seen it as you were comin in, where was a single civillian in the game, where was there one person (apart from that scientist lady/little sisters) who didnt try and attack you, where was civilisation of any kind. was that the one guy who greeted you at the start getting out of your diving bell, and god killed by a spider?

Apparently you didn't pay attention to the story. The civilians in the game are the splicers. They all essentially became obsessed with splicing, and thusly turned into the maniacs that they are. As for the character near the beginning, you hear Atlas speaking with him. He was going to meet you when he was attacked by the splicer.

come to think of it, where was a level with a greater expanse of view than aprox 45meters. this was a small, liner game.

You could conceivably have a game with corridors, such as this, and have two hundred different paths to go on. So, just because it doesn't have large, open areas, the game is linear?

1st level, plane crashes through a glass walkway, 40 leagues under the sea. glass cracks water pours in. 40 mins later, water pours in, 1hour 40mins later, water pours in, water level not rising. seriously, ten seconds into the game, would it hurt to have the environment collapsing, a cutscene if neccissary? you're not gonna mind dying at that point for being slow, you're ten seconds into it.

A small gripe, but not really the end of the world.


the game's over in a day, if you played it. one day you can finish this game, and never want to play it again, there's not enough to do/see.

My first play-through clocked in at 18 1/2 hours. That's roughly double the average FPS, and I still didn't manage to find everything. Not to mention the fact that I want to go through and save all the little sisters this time, and there was plenty else I could have done differently.

seriously, this game was made by cheif executives of big companys looking for the $$$ , we need a few powers to upgrade, heart rendering choices which determine good/bad endings. a plot twist, and a hacking system, a few guns.

two stars, avoid at all costs, you'll feel massively hard done by

See above.

V3NOM
09-08-2007, 03:13 PM
With all the overhyped reviews out there, I think a review like xioxenna's is just what we need.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/1394-Zero-Punctuation-BioShock

That's probably the most honest review I've seen/heard of the game. Just watch it - it's funny.

Samsonator
09-08-2007, 06:45 PM
This game - while being very enjoyable - just doesnt have enough value for me to keep it. Although it blew me away at first : graphically, plotwise and gameplaywise - theres a store in town offering £30 back for a game i just bought for £37. Thats basically an expensive rent i just made :(

Tk
09-08-2007, 11:51 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/1394-Zero-Punctuation-BioShock

That's probably the most honest review I've seen/heard of the game. Just watch it - it's funny.

Brilliant! :D

Spudnik
09-09-2007, 02:52 AM
I guess some people didn't get as captivated by the story as I was. I was totally addicted and thought it was more like a story.

Hotcooler
09-10-2007, 09:56 AM
I finally competed the game.

VinDali
09-10-2007, 03:59 PM
Yeah, I'm barely into the story. Just saved/harvested the 1st little sister. I need to finish it so I can send it back to Gamefly (yes, I know there's different endings).

Lono_Lives
09-10-2007, 04:07 PM
Yeah, I'm barely into the story. Just saved/harvested the 1st little sister. I need to finish it so I can send it back to Gamefly (yes, I know there's different endings).

mailed mine back today... Stranglehold, here I come!!!