1) The invisible bullets- This is probably my biggest complaint. Countless times I've seen in the kill cam someone reloading, then just as they remove their clip, they magically start firing at me. Where the hell did those bullets come from? I clearly see them remove the clip, but they don't put anything into the clip.

2) Lag (surprise eh?) I'm sure many other people have had this too... and it's due to the crap-ass way IW has put up their servers. Countless times I've seen people knife the air only to kill me. Or that I clearly shoot them in the head with a shotgun or any other weapon, but the kill cam either shows that I shot where they were, or that I didn't shoot them at all...

3) Magic bullets- This probably has something to do with lag... but I didn't know bullets could travel around corners... or that I'd make it around the corner, only to have something pull me back so the bullets could finish me off...

So share your complaints you have with COD4

Your complaints are all lag related. The kill cam errors are something that was supposedly well known. And while you may be seeing them reloading, there are small tricks that make reloading a second or two quicker, so while you are seeing the full reload animation, they have already canceled the animation and have bullets in the mag feeding into the chamber being struck by the zinc firing pin causing the primer to pop, igniting the powder, sending a full metal jacket piece of lead into your skull/meaty body.

Personally, what I am peeved at, are the knife lunges. Not when someone does them to me, but when I lunge and fly over an enemies head when I was supposed to slice the jugular and drink their tasty tasty life juice.

that's still exploiting a glitch... so I don't like it...

The gameplay online is completely unbalanced and alot of people camp. Those are my 2 biggest complaints and the reasons I stopped playing.

To answer the question in the name: Nothing!
The game is well balanced (if you die, you die) and many games have lag.
I always play with friends or do team tactical.

thankyou Mad, this game is definately as balanced as it can be and everybody camps in every online shooter ive ever played. Most games do also lag but ive never really had any major problems with cod4 anyway

If someone is hiding behind a low wall, shooting at you, it's nearly impossible to hit them. This is because on my screen only the very top of his head is showing while on his screen his entire head and gun is sticking over the wall. I don't know why that happens but it sucks.

You can try playing Domination. I have yet to see a person camp in that.

M16 w/Red Dot Sight, Stopping Power. It's not overpowered, persay, but certainly overused. I'd like to see something done so that a majority of people weren't using the same exact loadout. Just doesn't seem balanced when 70% of the community uses the same cookie-cutter class.

Grenades in SP. Most annoying grenades ever put into a game.

M16 w/Red Dot Sight, Stopping Power. It's not overpowered, persay, but certainly overused. I'd like to see something done so that a majority of people weren't using the same exact loadout. Just doesn't seem balanced when 70% of the community uses the same cookie-cutter class.

Don't you use that build Animathias? :p

But yeah I agree with you, it is damn annoying.

My only complaint is lag.
When you die and you are certain you shot first, But then you watch the killcam.. According to that person's side of the game you didn't even press the trigger..:mad:

Things I hate:
Random grenades
Being killed by my own air strike (I look at my yellow triangle and then I place it on the other side of the map but it seems to "drift" over to me.)
And the fact that without stopping power on you can't kill any one.

M16 w/Red Dot Sight, Stopping Power. It's not overpowered, persay, but certainly overused. I'd like to see something done so that a majority of people weren't using the same exact loadout. Just doesn't seem balanced when 70% of the community uses the same cookie-cutter class.

I have not seen the used in a while it seems that the G36 is used more than the M16 anymore.

some interesting points here... i think all of darkwonders' complaints are lag related.

as far as the M16 class thingy goes, barely anyone on PC uses that class.

you don't need stopping power to kill someone if you're playing on hardcore mode (that's the only thing i play... if i have to play regular mode, i only use a knife. :p)

@sinfulfate: unbalanced? you've got to be kidding me! this is one of the most balanced multiplayer FPS games i've ever played! i will agree with you on the camping, though. the COD franchise is notorious for camping, but this one is especially bad.

@wackyiraqi: i completely agree... when someone is hiding behind a wall and you can only see the top of their head, it's REALLY annoying. but, you can usually shoot towards the top of the wall, not necessarily over it, and still get a head shot.

you don't need stopping power to kill someone if you're playing on hardcore mode (that's the only thing i play... if i have to play regular mode, i only use a knife. :p)



I tried hardcore but without the radar Im terrible. My TV is small enough that with out radar I can't tell one gray blop from another.
And some times it's a real pain in the ass with radar.

People who use grenade launchers as precisely as a sniper rifle, they piss me of.

P.S. I use the M4 Carbine, don't really like the M16, I'd rather use the AK-47 than the M16.

retitle this thread: What I(not you) hate about my internet connection

Things I hate:
Random grenades
Being killed by my own air strike (I look at my yellow triangle and then I place it on the other side of the map but it seems to "drift" over to me.)
And the fact that without stopping power on you can't kill any one.


I try to hide in a building whenever I use my own airstrike... but sometimes the explosion seems to follow me in...

You can kill people w/o stopping power. Just make sure you sneak up on them :p

retitle this thread: What I(not you) hate about my internet connection

It's not my internet connection when I have full green bars and other people have 2 or 3... I'm blaming IW end on this. Makes me feel better :D

oh i also hate choppers in hardcore mode... i hate the fact that they are like tanks in the air, and that you can't shoot the pilot. i hate that they have as close to an aimbot without actually being one as possible, and i hate that they sometimes shoot through walls, roofs, and always through smoke.

hmm, i guess i just hate everything about choppers (unless i get one :D)

Obnoxious people. That's about all. I love all the gameplay, I just can not stand a lot of the people. I'm speaking of the 360 community.

@sinfulfate: unbalanced? you've got to be kidding me! this is one of the most balanced multiplayer FPS games I've ever played! i will agree with you on the camping, though. the COD franchise is notorious for camping, but this one is especially bad.How is it balanced? The game matches you up based on true skill(rather than lvl) so at lvl 5 I was facing against lvl 40+. I didn't look at all the perks I didn't unlock so for awhile I was wondering how these guys were throwing so many grenades. I only started with one and it felt like the guys I was facing had tons or knew some secret on how to pick up more. It turns out they could hold 3 whereas I could only hold 1. Thats balanced? Or when I would see a guy and start shooting at him first but he would kill me. Turns out he was using a perk that gave him more health than me. How is that balanced?

CoD 4 is just as unbalanced as PVP on any MMORPG. When you give players a lvl up system and skills it is bound to be unbalanced because there are just too many variables to consider. Tho what MMORPG's do to have some sort of balance is limit players to only battle against people around there level but in COD 4 a lvl 50 with all perks unlocked could go up against a lvl 1 guy who just started who has pretty much nothing. This is the fundamental reason why COD 4 is unbalanced but at the same time this encourages the low lvl guy to keep playing to lvl up. Unfortunately the high lvl guy realizes that there is no reason to move around the map since he has pretty much all the perks/weapons and has the ultimate setup so he just sits in one spot camping.

I can tolerate the unbalanced gameplay but its the fact that these people who already have a huge advantage over me(because they have all the perks unlocked) just sit back and camp. That really pisses me off. I played a match for the CoD 4 tourney GCN started and all the other team did was camp. It reminded me why I stopped playing this game.

Also what I like to call the "free kills" system is pretty stupid. Air strikes and Helicopters are poorly implemented imo. I loved how artillery(pretty much the same thing air strikes in COD 4) worked in BF 2. The team would vote on a commander and only he could send them out. Although there was nothing he had to do to use it, he could use it as many times as he wanted but there was a cool down time. And the catch was the artillery was on a point on the map so the opposing team could destroy it and you needed top get an engineer to fix it. Which brings me to another point what exactly is the point of the classes in Call of duty 4? In BF 2 every class had its own role but in Call of Duty the class you choose doesn't even matter.

Don't you use that build Animathias? :p

But yeah I agree with you, it is damn annoying.


Indeed I do, it's my backup class for when I'm falling behind or just don't feel like challenging myself. My main class is the silenced p90 or the Dragunov. But if I'm falling behind in points, I pull up the m16 class and my kills skyrocket.. I just feel dirty using it.

Another thing I don't like is lucky grenades. With the new killcam, it's amazing to see how lucky some people get. Grenade bounces off 2 walls to land right beside me :p. Oh, and my teammate sniping my prey as I'm sneaking up behind him, only to find he has martyrdom. I've come to terms with the perk, but the situation goes from "Ooh, free kill" to "Where's the exit?!"

I played a match for the CoD 4 tourney GCN started and all the other team did was camp.


That was no game.

That was a massacre!:(

You know none of that bothered me because at level 10 I was killing people of level 30 so I was happy. What does bother me is how after you play a game all the players points for that round are shown so you know who is a good player and who's not. Then the next round the game throws the best players together against the worst players. That happened way too often to me. I mean is it that hard to put players on top of that list with those on the bottom into the same team to make the next round more fun, rather than having a one-sided slaughter.

You know none of that bothered me because at level 10 I was killing people of level 30 so I was happy. What does bother me is how after you play a game all the players points for that round are shown so you know who is a good player and who's not. Then the next round the game throws the best players together against the worst players. That happened way too often to me. I mean is it that hard to put players on top of that list with those on the bottom into the same team to make the next round more fun, rather than having a one-sided slaughter.

I never had that problem. For me the worst and best player are always on the same team. Although if all the good players on it a party then it will group them together.

Try merc TDM (if TDM is what you play.) no parties.

Turns out he was using a perk that gave him more health than me. How is that balanced?

Just so you know you have that perk as soon as you are able to create a class. Its called juggernaut.

If you have stopping power, you should be able to do more damage than him, so even if he has juggernaut it evens it out.

How is it balanced? The game matches you up based on true skill(rather than lvl) so at lvl 5 I was facing against lvl 40+. I didn't look at all the perks I didn't unlock so for awhile I was wondering how these guys were throwing so many grenades. I only started with one and it felt like the guys I was facing had tons or knew some secret on how to pick up more. It turns out they could hold 3 whereas I could only hold 1. Thats balanced? Or when I would see a guy and start shooting at him first but he would kill me. Turns out he was using a perk that gave him more health than me. How is that balanced?

CoD 4 is just as unbalanced as PVP on any MMORPG. When you give players a lvl up system and skills it is bound to be unbalanced because there are just too many variables to consider. Tho what MMORPG's do to have some sort of balance is limit players to only battle against people around there level but in COD 4 a lvl 50 with all perks unlocked could go up against a lvl 1 guy who just started who has pretty much nothing. This is the fundamental reason why COD 4 is unbalanced but at the same time this encourages the low lvl guy to keep playing to lvl up. Unfortunately the high lvl guy realizes that there is no reason to move around the map since he has pretty much all the perks/weapons and has the ultimate setup so he just sits in one spot camping.

I can tolerate the unbalanced gameplay but its the fact that these people who already have a huge advantage over me(because they have all the perks unlocked) just sit back and camp. That really pisses me off. I played a match for the CoD 4 tourney GCN started and all the other team did was camp. It reminded me why I stopped playing this game.

Also what I like to call the "free kills" system is pretty stupid. Air strikes and Helicopters are poorly implemented imo. I loved how artillery(pretty much the same thing air strikes in COD 4) worked in BF 2. The team would vote on a commander and only he could send them out. Although there was nothing he had to do to use it, he could use it as many times as he wanted but there was a cool down time. And the catch was the artillery was on a point on the map so the opposing team could destroy it and you needed top get an engineer to fix it. Which brings me to another point what exactly is the point of the classes in Call of duty 4? In BF 2 every class had its own role but in Call of Duty the class you choose doesn't even matter.

Wow, that was....well, it's just an opinion so I won't say. I'll just make some counterpoints.

1. You start with all the best weapons and perks, including the M16, stopping power, juggernaut, mp5, and everything else that is absolutely vital. There is NOTHING save for the p90 that gives a level 50 a significant advantage over another. You act like level 55's gt a full-auto heat-seeking rocket launcher and you get a big stick. I find that most people who complain about this just aren't good and are looking for something to blame. Levels 1-4 are tough, but as soon as create a class is unlocked you can take anyone. I never have problems taking on lvl 55s even immediately after prestiging.

2. If you have a problem with camping, then check your corners.

3. The free kill system is fine. Helicopters are tough but easy to take down, and air strikes kill people but don't have a huge radius or instantly kill if you get hit by splash damage.

4.You get the perk that gives you more health nearly from the start.

5. The point of classes is to let you choose what kind of guns that you want to use and what classes you want to be, I don't see why that's so hard to understand.

my main complaint about the game is how serious some people take it (& single player was too short).
it's a game, i don't know about everyone, but i play for fun & i am very happy that i can absorbe more bullets then anyone playing, it's a unique tallent that no other can best me in.
As for technical problems i don't know a single game that runs perfectly.

Does this post make me a fanboy????

no it does not, the only thing i hate is the still inaccurate snipers, its probably just because I suck at sniping but I cannot use them in that game. Camping is really the only other thing the game is really fun and balanced. I also with there were some Multilayer Achievements.

The snipers are completely fixed now. They hit every time for me.

does anyone know when the map are coming out?

No clue.

When I first started playing I hated the ranking system in COD4 I always hated being killed by the level 55 that I never had a chance to even see let alone shoot at but it was that aspect that made me better, haveing to to learn the game inside and out to stay alive and more importantly win. Some games like Halo baby step you to your aprx skill range but it never pushes you to be better in the begining of the game so even when you reach your top skill it can be harder I think to ever improve on your playing.


my main complaint about the game is how serious some people take it (& single player was too short).
it's a game, i don't know about everyone, but i play for fun & i am very happy that i can absorbe more bullets then anyone playing, it's a unique tallent that no other can best me in.
As for technical problems i don't know a single game that runs perfectly.

Does this post make me a fanboy????


The most beautiful post that defines what games are about.

CoD 4 is just as unbalanced as PVP on any MMORPG. When you give players a lvl up system and skills it is bound to be unbalanced because there are just too many variables to consider. Tho what MMORPG's do to have some sort of balance is limit players to only battle against people around there level but in COD 4 a lvl 50 with all perks unlocked could go up against a lvl 1 guy who just started who has pretty much nothing. This is the fundamental reason why COD 4 is unbalanced but at the same time this encourages the low lvl guy to keep playing to lvl up. Unfortunately the high lvl guy realizes that there is no reason to move around the map since he has pretty much all the perks/weapons and has the ultimate setup so he just sits in one spot camping.

Then why do people go PRESTIGE? Why do players give up all their perks when they finish level 55 and start back at square one, when they could just work on getting all the challenges and golden guns? If the game is so unbalanced what motivation is there for players to simply opt out of all their hard earned gear and perks?

CoD is a game of skill. Yes there are many things that will occur that will feel unfair but so too is life and war (get over it). However, nothing you describe breaks the game. If the game were broken then people would jump ship and play something else like Halo.

As for true skill and LeVeL50GuY. Don't feel sorry for yourself for having to fight LeVeL50GuY, feel sorry that LeVeL50GuY is still in a match with noobs. True Skill matches you based on some unseen calculation that determines how good you are. Which means that although LeVeL50GuY is kicking your ass at present if you are persistent enough to learn from your defeats then eventually you'll be out of his league.

And read the multiplayer guide for COD4 (http://sarcasticgamer.com/wp/index.php/2007/11/noob-guide-to-call-of-duty-4s-mulitplayer.html).

Sinfulate, I understand you're annoyed that we camped the first match, but exaggerating the rest will get you no where. We went into that match with a game plan for each of those maps not knowing what to expect from your team (asides the fact that unhinging derek would be a key component). After the first map we didn't camp, and in Domination, that's all about camping, otherwise known as strategic defense :p

Unlocked weapons and higher levels hardly give a lvl 55 a distinct advantage over the other players. They just add flavor to the game and something for you to tailor to what you like as a player.

How about this, you and the rest of the Wolverines join up with us later on this week and we'll help you identify what you guys need to work on and get you guys better suited for the rest of the tournament since you've got at least eight more matches to go through.

If you guys would've slowed it down a bit and used a sniper class it would've been easy to take us out from our held positions.

So... yeah, come join the rest of us and we'll gladly help you all out with what you need. Derek has already joined up with us got some knowledge from it so you could definitely benefit from it. Then you'll learn the joy of annihilating campers from their spots.

Sinfulate, I understand you're annoyed that we camped the first match, but exaggerating the rest will get you no where. We went into that match with a game plan for each of those maps not knowing what to expect from your team (asides the fact that unhinging derek would be a key component). After the first map we didn't camp, and in Domination, that's all about camping, otherwise known as strategic defense :p

Unlocked weapons and higher levels hardly give a lvl 55 a distinct advantage over the other players. They just add flavor to the game and something for you to tailor to what you like as a player.

How about this, you and the rest of the Wolverines join up with us later on this week and we'll help you identify what you guys need to work on and get you guys better suited for the rest of the tournament since you've got at least eight more matches to go through.

If you guys would've slowed it down a bit and used a sniper class it would've been easy to take us out from our held positions.

So... yeah, come join the rest of us and we'll gladly help you all out with what you need. Derek has already joined up with us got some knowledge from it so you could definitely benefit from it. Then you'll learn the joy of annihilating campers from their spots.

will do. PM me if you want, or should I PM you?

Lag and the mics always on i hate hearing other peoples conversations with people not playing. Like "Mom I'll get the trash LATER!!!!!".

Sinfulate, I understand you're annoyed that we camped the first match, but exaggerating the rest will get you no where. We went into that match with a game plan for each of those maps not knowing what to expect from your team (asides the fact that unhinging derek would be a key component). After the first map we didn't camp, and in Domination, that's all about camping, otherwise known as strategic defense :p

Unlocked weapons and higher levels hardly give a lvl 55 a distinct advantage over the other players. They just add flavor to the game and something for you to tailor to what you like as a player.

How about this, you and the rest of the Wolverines join up with us later on this week and we'll help you identify what you guys need to work on and get you guys better suited for the rest of the tournament since you've got at least eight more matches to go through.

If you guys would've slowed it down a bit and used a sniper class it would've been easy to take us out from our held positions.

So... yeah, come join the rest of us and we'll gladly help you all out with what you need. Derek has already joined up with us got some knowledge from it so you could definitely benefit from it. Then you'll learn the joy of annihilating campers from their spots.

First of all what tournament. Second of all Hobo and I would like to play with you.

Sorry , but the tournament already started...

maybe next time...

Strika, if I remember correctly you're already on my friends list, so just send me a message next time you see me on CoD4. Wackyiraqi and hobo, send a FR with SG in the message line so I know that you're from here.

I'm usually online from 3pm to 6pm central, monday through wendsdays . Usually I'm on all day thursday, friday, and saturday unless I have other pressing issues to tend to such as vehicle maintenance, work, or a project.

Killcam... I HATE IT... It ruins the art of sniping

Strika, if I remember correctly you're already on my friends list, so just send me a message next time you see me on CoD4. Wackyiraqi and hobo, send a FR with SG in the message line so I know that you're from here.

I'm usually online from 3pm to 6pm central, monday through wendsdays . Usually I'm on all day thursday, friday, and saturday unless I have other pressing issues to tend to such as vehicle maintenance, work, or a project.

Just invite us.


Our GTs are

Wacky Iraqi 77

and

Hobo Hunter1001

Killcam... I HATE IT... It ruins the art of sniping

the secret to that is stay on your scope after you kill someone and they won't be able to tell where you are.

@sinfulfate: i apologize, but i only play it for PC, where they still use the ancient ways of actually letting you choose what (dedicated) server you join. so matchmaking isn't an issue. on the downside of that, though, is that there is no prestige mode for PC...

another thing i don't like about it is that IW kind of crapped on the PC version (again... i'm looking at you COD2) and decided people on PC would never get to level 55, or that we are such elitists that once we got there, we wouldn't want to do anything else... i have nothing to work for, except some ridiculous challenges that i don't care about.

I hate being able to see the bomb carrier in Sabotage.

Wow, that was....well, it's just an opinion so I won't say. I'll just make some counterpoints.

1. You start with all the best weapons and perks, including the M16, stopping power, juggernaut, mp5, and everything else that is absolutely vital. There is NOTHING save for the p90 that gives a level 50 a significant advantage over another. You act like level 55's gt a full-auto heat-seeking rocket launcher and you get a big stick. I find that most people who complain about this just aren't good and are looking for something to blame. Levels 1-4 are tough, but as soon as create a class is unlocked you can take anyone. I never have problems taking on lvl 55s even immediately after prestiging.

2. If you have a problem with camping, then check your corners.

3. The free kill system is fine. Helicopters are tough but easy to take down, and air strikes kill people but don't have a huge radius or instantly kill if you get hit by splash damage.

4.You get the perk that gives you more health nearly from the start.

5. The point of classes is to let you choose what kind of guns that you want to use and what classes you want to be, I don't see why that's so hard to understand.

1. Really you start with the perk to hold 3 grenades?

2. How does checking my corners fix camping?

3. I dont like the free kill system because a majority of your kills were given to your basically for free. Wheres the skill there? I feel proud of getting 40 kills in a Gears of War match, not so much in Call of Duty 4.

4. The health perk was just an example.

5. So people who are the sniper class can use only snipers? Nope anybody can pick up whatever weapon they want at any time thats why the class system sucks. TF 2 is the best example of how a class system should be.

Having three extra grenades is hardly an edge or some over powered ability. Especially since most people get rid of them as soon as they spawn, even moreso on close quartered maps like wetworks and vacant.

There is no way to fix camping, only ways to better prepare for it. Such as... checking the corners. Knowledge like that comes from understanding ideal camping places and being ready for that spot as you come around the corner. It's been a staple of anti-camping tactics since back in the day of Quake deathmatches, and it's more important now that it's a game of quick reflexes, strategy, and quick kills. And grenades are a great way to clear out campers, and near impossible to escape if you cook for a minimum of two seconds. That is one glaring mistake you and your team made in the GCN match, you knew exactly where we were sitting yet you failed to properly utilize the grenades and thus made it easy for us to dodge and minimize the damage.

The free kills system fails as much as it succeeds. Airstrikes aren't a guaranteed mass of kills, and helicopters are usually flown by a drunken hillbilly that can't tell his finger from a potato. The developers of CoD4 said they are in place as rewards for doing well and encouragement for a player to strive to become a better player.

Health perk (Juggernaut) is just one thing available to tailor a class to your liking. The class system is in place to let you pick what you want to play as, just as it was in all previous Call of Duty installments, Battlefield series, and other big war type games. CoD4 took it a step further and lets you customize those classes to suit your needs. However, being able to pick up weapons isn't a detriment to the game, hardly at all is it ever a bad thing. What are you supposed to do if you run out of ammunition? Ask your buddy for a spare mag? No, it's much simpler to scavenge a weapon off of someones dead body and use that to continue on killing rather than being forced to hide or kill yourself just so you can continue fighting. TF2 is all designed around each class complementing each other and forces teamwork to be successful. You shouldn't be penalized for having a teammate that fails to give you ammunition or doesn't want to heal you especially in a fast paced action game like this.

If you pick a sniper rifle, you're pretty much going to be playing as a sniper for the duration you have the class, but by picking up an assault rifle off the ground, you change your role and can be prepared if the tide of battle shifts out of your favor. Say you're sitting back sniping (hey, it's a legitimate version of camping :D), and the enemy manages to push your team back into a different spawn point. Bam, suddenly you have no one to back you up and are going to be swarmed by enemies from all sides. Sure, valiantly trying to fend them off with an inaccurate hip fired rifle may feel glorious, but you're going to die pretty gosh darn quickly unless you know you can kill two or three people with your pistol (chances are you can't), so having that little bit of extra insurance can help you stay alive and reap the benefits of free kills.

And besides, Team Fortress 2 and CoD4 are two games of drastically different styles.

well i think it's really obvious sinfulfate just isn't good and isn't willing to practice to unlock those perks he keeps complaining about. :p

When I first started CoD4, it wasn't unfair at all, I had no trouble taking down higher levels.

And the true skill thing works fine.

It matches people based on their K/D raiot and W/L ratio instead of level.

Which is much better.

Your comparison with WoW is also disgustingly flawed.

In WoW, a Level 20 can kile multiple level 10's as easy as pie.

In CoD4 even the best level 55 will have have trouble and most probably die against 3 level 5's head on.

Wow, I just had a horrible flashback to duffy direct's anti-COD4 threads.

well i think it's really obvious sinfulfate just isn't good and isn't willing to practice to unlock those perks he keeps complaining about. :p
Apparently you didn't read my posts. I can tolerate the unbalanced gameplay, its the camping that sucks. I'm actually pretty good at Call of duty 4. I'd show you but you play on the PC :(

A lot of my complaints probably have to do with the fact that I play Gears of War a lot so I'm not use to games like Call of Duty 4.

Sinfulate, I understand you're annoyed that we camped the first match, but exaggerating the rest will get you no where. We went into that match with a game plan for each of those maps not knowing what to expect from your team (asides the fact that unhinging derek would be a key component). After the first map we didn't camp, and in Domination, that's all about camping, otherwise known as strategic defense :p


Its not your guys fault, camping is a good tactic in Call of Duty 4 which is why a lot of people use it. Tho in something like Gears of War you cant camp because you will get screwed. Different games require different tactics and I'm just not use to the Call of Duty 4 tactics. If you remember the first match we played I was playing like I would play Gears and was very defensive. I ended up with only like 9 deaths yet everyone else on my team had like over 20 =/

A general rule of COD4 is - If someone else does it, it's "lame/stupid/ghey/noob". But if you do it, it's ok. :p

I love my 3 frag perk, but I hate being nade spammed. The grenades in COD4 are a bit rediculous IMO. I would sacrifice not being able to use the 3 frag perk if it meant no more nade spam.

I do hate it when I get killed by random grenades, but then I stop and think... "Heck... a lot of times my grenades may seem random." I'll usually throw a grade if I anticipate someone is there, or is going to be there.

I've had times where I was shooting at a guy... but we didn't kill each other... So I'd go prone and hope to confuse him... I'll usually chuck a grenade in front of me. Surprisingly a lot of times I've been able to kill them because they charge forward after I go prone.

Other times I'll watch the radar and see a dot ahead of me. I'll predict that they are going to go a certain way and then chuck a grenade in that direction. To them it must look like a random grenade. But I swear it's not! It's rather just predicting an enemy's path!

1) The invisible bullets- This is probably my biggest complaint. Countless times I've seen in the kill cam someone reloading, then just as they remove their clip, they magically start firing at me. Where the hell did those bullets come from? I clearly see them remove the clip, but they don't put anything into the clip.

ATENTION

THIS IS NOT LAG IT IS AN EXPLOT IN THE GAME.

OK now Ive got your attention with all that shouting at my monitor. When playing a multiplayer game shoot of half your clip, begin to reload, half way through your reload fire your gun.

You should have noticed that your gun fired and any reloading animation just stopped and you reverted to the gun firing animation. It is and exploit, you can fire your gun half way through a reload, and its annoying as hell when it happens on a kill cam...

Other times I'll watch the radar and see a dot ahead of me. I'll predict that they are going to go a certain way and then chuck a grenade in that direction. To them it must look like a random grenade. But I swear it's not! It's rather just predicting an enemy's path!

Great point. Obviously when you're hit by a seemingly "random grenade", you're not thinking it out to this extent. But I've killed tons of people using this strategy and I'm sure I've left them all thinking, "what a random ass grenade, noob!!".

I really hate it when ppl playing "headquaters" dont even try to conquer the hq...all they do is sit in a dark corner and hide. Dont they realise that they get waaaaay more points holding the hq than killing 10 guys with a headshot?

I hate that one guy who stays at the very edge of the map for one reason or another, causing us to spawn at the back of the map and have to run across the whole map each time.

Strika, you need to get yourself a new mic... Easy fix, just get a $2 or $5 cellphone headset with a 2.5 mm jack dollar general or any other discount store. Gotta work on your sniping some more so hopefully we can get in a few games for that today.

I'm just trying to level up my weapons...

will do though, thanks.

I'm just trying to level up my weapons...

speaking of which, who else hates starting out with crappy guns while others have really good ones

speaking of which, who else hates starting out with crappy guns while others have really good ones

Was that a joke? :confused:

You start with AK,M16,MP5,SAW and a good sniper rifle. You get M4 at level 10. What else do you need? Sure, other people have G36 and P90, but that doesn't make that much of a difference.

Was that a joke? :confused:

You start with AK,M16,MP5,SAW and a good sniper rifle. You get M4 at level 10. What else do you need? Sure, other people have G36 and P90, but that doesn't make that much of a difference.

okay granted the starting guns are good... but i hate it when i get outsniped because his gun fires faster, or they unlocked a perk that causes a death on your end only because you don't have that perk... that's what i mean

and yes the m16 holds it's own quite well... but the original sniper sucks

speaking of which, who else hates starting out with crappy guns while others have really good ones

I have no problem killing anyone with the starting weapons or the later weapons. Just a matter of getting used to them so you're versatile in multiple situations.

The gameplay online is completely unbalanced and alot of people camp. Those are my 2 biggest complaints and the reasons I stopped playing.

every game has campers the only way you can really stop it is if the deveoper puts a timer in and if you stay in the same place for lets say a minute or more (unless your a sniper) it kicks you from the server

I remember many cs servers had that.

they did wow...that didnt last long...grrr that would have worked well but valve probably got like a million email from 11 year old high pitched voiced n00bs saying i paused the game cause i had to pee. (best excuse for camping unless you are shooting which you probably are)

It's not my internet connection when I have full green bars and other people have 2 or 3... I'm blaming IW end on this. Makes me feel better :D

perhaps other people's connection look bad because your connection is the true poor connection?
you could be hosting, so you may have a good connection to IW but a bad one to the other people.